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I wish I had never gotten any in the first place, particularly the ones I ended up with. At this stage in life, I could do without the constant reminder of who I was. My guess is that if I continue to change as much as I have in the past 20 years, whatever cover ups I do today will be regretted 20 years from now… so probably removal is in my future.

I’ll put it this way… for dine in tipping, 20% is fine. If you order a cheap meal by yourself at a restaurant, that $4 tip on a $20 meal is fine. The server probably didn’t have to spend more than a few minutes with you.

If you are a table of 5 with a bunch of drinks and a $200 tab, the server probably earned their 20% of $40.

For delivery, a flat rate makes more sense. If someone delivers 3 pizzas and some wings for $100, did that take much more effort than delivering 1 pizza for $20? Same number of steps taken, miles driven, gas used, time used, etc.

$8 to $10 makes sense for doorstep delivery in todays economy. $5 was fair pre-pandemic.

If you are getting a whole bunch of stuff delivered then I can see justifying a bigger tip, but probably not percentage based.

A $4 tip on delivery means the driver is taking a loss or maybe breaking even. They shouldn’t have to suffer because you had a small order.

The service you receive for delivery is not as directly correlated with the total ticket amount as much as dine in might be.

$18 is a bit much, but I have 10 downvotes that say $8 is too much, so who am I to judge.

Jokes on you… the delivery fee doesn’t go to the driver. Only the tip goes to the driver. That’s how fucked up this whole situation is.

Yup. I deliberately avoid this place now and I am getting better at planning ahead so I am not in the position where I need to rely on overpriced delivery.

You want to slap me because I wanted pizza and then I also wanted the person who drove the pizza to my apartment to also be able to afford pizza?

I don’t condone the system, this is simply the pizza system that exists where I live.

I wish I lived in a country where this was the case.

They are paid a base minimum wage plus tips to drive their own vehicle around all day, paying for their gas, insurance, frequent oil changes and tire wear, putting miles on their car further depreciating the value… the whole point of being a driver is for the tips. Even when people tip well the drivers are mostly taking a loss with the usage of their own cars.

In the USA the delivery drivers live off of the tips… it’s not just high school kids working a summer job. A lot of drivers are working a second job to support their families.

If you live in a major metro area in an apartment building, gain yourself a reputation for tipping decently and you won’t have to leave your apartment. Tip poorly and you will have to meet them down on the street.

It’s not something I voted for, this social contract existed long before I was here.

If I had a vote to abolish the tip system, I would. In the meantime I make sure to tip decently so that the person who gave me service can keep a roof over their head.

Yes, that is correct.

Also the drivers use their own personal vehicles so they experience all the extra wear and tear, fuel costs, more frequent tire and oil changes, etc.

It really is unfair which I why I make sure to tip decently.

I didn’t say I like it, I just said that is the right thing to do.

Someone drove you some hot food and you give them $4? You’re like Steve Buscemi in reservoir dogs.

I went online to place an order for pizza recently. Jets pizza. Everything was super overpriced and so one small pizza and 6 piece wings was $50 after tax and fees, not including tip which I usually do $10. So $60 for one person. I scoffed at the price then hit ‘submit’.

I was then hit with the ‘order does not meet minimum for delivery’. They had a $40 minimum which does not include delivery fee, tax, and tip - I was at $38 something.

I almost added some dipping sauce and sent it through but I felt so violated by the $40 minimum which was actually a $60 minimum that I just gave up.