Icaria

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[–] Icaria 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Who said anything about incest? Fuck me, I was on the money. You came at me with a bunch of trolling crap and accusations of 'rage', yet you may legit need help.

[–] Icaria 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

when I see a 45 year old guy with an 18 year old

And you just assume it must be an age-gap relationship and start getting icky feelings and start looking online for ways to justify your pearl-clutching and feelings of outrage, when on the balance of probabilities they're just a father and daughter with a healthy affectionate relationship you never had growing up, and you just have unresolved emotional issues.

Yeah... ngl, kinda hoped we'd left most of you people behind on reddit.

[–] Icaria 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I think it's time you calmed down

rage

feels

if you calmed down

free meditation resources

you continue to defer to feels

That's the feels covered

now tell me why you'd type the way you did it you weren't blinded by rage

Fuck me, you're tedious and desperate. Oh noes, I swore again, I must be 'raging'. Absolutely one-note, and about a decade by its best-by date as a troll, let alone a debate tactic. Even if you could get me stirred up, it wouldn't be an impediment to my reasoning skills or articulation because I'm not a child.

I've brought credible, relevant studies and stats

...over something that was never a point of contention. You went google-fuing for no other reason than to look like you've got something to argue with me about.

There's no difference between looking upon something with suspicion and actively intervening? This is just stupid on the face of it - tantamount to "There's no difference between investigating someone and executing them."

No, if we're going with argument by analogy, what you're doing is stirring up a witch hunt and then claiming no responsibility when people you've enabled drown a bunch of spinsters.

You don't look upon a bunch of strangers' relationships with 'suspicion' if you have any fucking concept of pulling your fucking head in and minding your own business. You're a busybody, a gossip, a meddler. If you want a predictor, try having a healthy relationship with anyone when you've got a bunch of twat neighbours looking through your windows and whispering behind your backs. You're the same kind of arsehole who makes going out in public hell for a lot of mixed-race couples because they get smirks and weird comments about how it must be a 'mail order bride' scenario. Like you're not fighting for some great moral victory here, you just suck.

[–] Icaria 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Prior to D-Day, The Allies had inflatable tanks and trucks to disguise where the real buildup was. Pretty classical tactic.

[–] Icaria 2 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I read this over a couple of times looking for your thesis statement... nope, there wasn't a point hidden in there anywhere, just poorly-contextualised quoting of statistics, like how you gloss over the very poor success rates on dating apps/sites, and an opening strawman.

Just a very overwrought u mad troll. Okay, cool, can't believe I interrupted my movie for a ploy straight out of 2010.

You also seem to be confusing looking upon something with suspicion and actively intervening - why?

Because there isn't a difference. The moment someone falls on the wrong side of a taboo, they're considered fair game. You're just doing the work of rationalising it.

[–] Icaria 10 points 10 months ago

This issue is constantly telling younger adults that their choices aren't valid and are subject to scrutiny by older adults, even total fucking strangers.

[–] Icaria 5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I think it's reasonable to look at this sort of thing with suspicion

I think it's reasonable to mind your own fucking business. The judging and flimsy excuses to meddle are guaranteed to cause relationship issues for others.

You act when there's evidence of abuse, not 'predictors'. This is fucking twitter/reddit moon-logic where every day 5000 supposed serial killers are identified based entirely upon whether they kicked a dog or left the toilet seat up.

Think about the likely reasons someone would seek that kind of thing

This is a stupid assumption in itself. Most people don't have a wealth of relationship options to choose from. If you're desperate enough to denigrate yourself using tinder, you're desperate enough to cast as wide a net as possible and settle for anyone not actively smoking meth.

[–] Icaria 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't just tired-arse bad trans humour, it was tired-arse bad humour. I got 17 minutes in before I had to stop - I got past the offensive jokes, and then I was stuck listening to jokes other comedians were telling 20 years ago. If I'd kept listening, I'm sure he eventually would've made a joke about airline food.

He's been smoking so much weed the last 20 years the world passed him by.

[–] Icaria 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean I agree that this is a new user nightmare, but we've been conditioning people for 30 years to download and run random .EXE files as admin too.

[–] Icaria 29 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I hope they continue to resist and eventually cause a larger change for the better across the region.

Except that's not what's happening if you read the article, on either count.

Women aren't resisting childbirth as an act of rebellion or as an exercise of their rights, there's just too many competing pressures in their lives to table in having kids. Coupled with declining rates of attachment and a distraction-based economy, this isn't a 'win' for anyone.

And population decline is a crisis we don't know how to deal with. Old people have little economic output, but use up a lot of resources. It means the kids who are still born end up carrying a huge burden paying for and caring for older generations, they end up tax serfs in an aged care-based economy, and if older generations aren't cared for you end up with human atrocities on a massive scale.

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Most of these comments are problematic. You don't have to have children, but for most people it has been a pretty consistent and natural inclination. Now a whole generation are convincing themselves they don't want children when they really just can't, and rather than holding those responsible to account and improving all our circumstances, they're treating it as some personal victory.

[–] Icaria 1 points 10 months ago

One of the servers I’m in literally has a How to Make Friends pinned post for people who might need it.

Out of morbid curiosity, could we see it?

We've got basic conflict resolution tactics written into our rules... not that anyone reads them.

I’ve found that people on local servers tend to be a mix, including other lonely or socially awkward people.

Give it a few more years and you'll realise how much deeper that rabbit hole goes. I'm resigned to the fact that discord isn't even really a gaming platform any more, let alone a social one; most people seem to be trying to use it for scoring drugs or hookups/affairs. Lots of kink stuff, too - it is following the same path as Second Life did. Also goes well beyond lonely and socially awkward; antisocial nutjobs abound.

[–] Icaria 14 points 11 months ago

I've encountered three stripes of Big-L Libertarians online (thankfully, they don't seem to exist in Oz, they're mostly Americans with too much free time):

  • The Libertarian who is just a walking tax grievance. All he cares about is not paying taxes, it was how he got introduced to libertarianism, everything else is rationalising this point.

  • The Libertarian who treats it like a model train set in his basement. Everything works perfectly in his head, all the systems snap together, and he doesn't much care how it relates to an actual railway network in the real world. Libertarianism is more a neat little thought experiment for him than anything else. They have varying levels of commitment to implementing these ideas in the real world.

  • Actual fucking psychopaths. Social Darwinists. These guys are the ones who go on about "freedom", but they're engaged in sleight of hand. When they say freedom, they mean the freedom of the strong to exploit the weak, and the freedom to starve in the gutter. They all seem to imagine themselves as temporarily-embarrassed millionaires and captains of industry, or ranchers who get to print their own money and turn people living on their land into neo-feudal serfs.

None of them have a satisfying answer for how their utopian power vacuum is supposed to be stable. Some know it isn't, but can't give the game away.

And of course any time any of them are presented with evidence of deregulation or privatisation having a negative human cost, they'll also claim there's a magical inflection point where things just weren't deregulated or privatised enough: you have to give them everything they want first, then their theories will start to work, pinky-promise. And sometimes the psychos will say the quiet part out loud and will chide you for daring to bring morality and human suffering into an economic debate.

And yes, a lot of this language is gendered. No, it is not unnecessary. Yes, they are almost always dudes. No, I don't know why.

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