Charapaso

There's no hard line, sure: I lived in the Amazon for years, so I know how to live off poverty wages. Poverty where I grew up in the USA seems almost plush by comparison, because a shitty trailer is far more comfortable than a thatch roofed house with electricity only 4 hours a day. My lifestyle now is middle class, and I feel like I'm living like a king. It's a grey smear of a continuum of wealth and privilege and morality that I feel like I understand viscerally.

However: my lifestyle and wealth is far closer to my friends in the Amazon than that of billionaires.

So there's a line, but it's far closer to the top 0.1% than the rest of us. I can help a few friends get motors for fishing canoes, and still make ends meet if I'm careful. A billionaire could get electricity and running water for the whole town and not notice.

What's the cutoff?

Maybe it's just my own bias, but I assumed the advice comes from people who have been or are lonely, and are talking about what helped them.

The worst depths of loneliness I've had were when I lived in a country where I didn't speak the language well, and was in a tiny, tiny town. The way I got out of it was threefold. One was being kinder to myself. I indulged myself in just being alone. Watching movies on my laptop and trying my hand at creative writing, which I had always wanted to do, but hadn't done. The second was getting into better physical shape. Even half assing it made me feel better: I'm a biologist so I can attest to the fact that one's mental health improves with a little healthier physical body, if it's possible. Finally...I just had to be comfortable being awkward. I was the bizarre foreigner who didn't understand customs or the language, and even when I had assholes being kind of a jerk... Whatever! I just did my thing, went to social events as regularly as I could stomach (once a week ish), and was surprised at how after a month or so, things really did turn around. I found asking questions to be a way to get to know people and places. Other people love to talk and answer questions, even when you didn't ask a question: as we've all seen in this thread.

None of that is to say it will work for everyone, or even anyone else.... But I understand the pain of loneliness. So if sharing my experience can help anyone, please grant me some leniency if I'm being a tone deaf jerk, because that's not my intent!

Is there a succinct way of articulating why we can't do both? (e.g. vote for the lesser evil while also doing all the mutual aid and whatnot that we can?) Does it boil down to the argument that voting makes people less likely to build said alternative power structures?

I'll watch the video when I have time, but communicating an actionable strategy I think is essential to folks in crisis.

Him not being the Spock we know is kind of the point though, right?

He was a little messier before he got himself together. His human side maybe is less bound by Pon Farr rules, and he's not yet the hyper competent officer we love in his later years.

He screws up and then that becomes a motivating reason to control himself is pretty compelling, to me at least. He did go a little buck wild helping out Pike in TOS, so he's certainly still got a wild streak in him.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

• some guy who doesn't know much about "Real Communism"

Communism doesn't argue people are all equal in abilities: but instead it argues that people's needs should be met, regardless.

This doesn't mean we all should live in the same identical brick huts, either. We just shouldn't be so barbaric that we let people starve to death in a gutter, even if it's because of their own failures.

That's correct in my eyes, too. I've done everything I can to stop the genocide, short of getting a plane ticket to go and fight, and I do all I can to donate to groups like Doctors Without Borders to improve the material conditions on the ground to the extent that it's possible.

It's honestly disgusting that so many people don't even recognize it as a genocide. Again: my only point is that we all need to reflect on how to contribute, even in small ways, to improving things on the ground there. I'm not the original person you were arguing with, I just wanted to interject that self reflection is always a good thing, even if you come out thinking the same way as before. Sometimes there's a slightly different answer though, or a better understanding of the actions of others, which helps future decisions. Nuance isn't easy, but it's important to actually making effective change in the world. That's been my experience, at least. Take it for what you will!

My point was that we should all reflect, and not just assume that we're correct all the time.

Nowhere in my comment did I suggest we should only focus on the worst major political party in the USA, nor am I defending the idealized image people have of the states. American exceptionalism has always been terrible propaganda, and the only silver living I've seen from this trump era is that more people are aware of how shit most US parties are, and the depths of the myths we've been fed in this nation.

I'll disagree that the other options are 100% as morally bankrupt as trump's group of billionaires and conspiracy theorists, but if you're talking about Democrats I'd argue they're only nearly as morally bankrupt, so it's far from a defense of the party. Maybe 90% as morally bankrupt? 95ish?

You should reflect because it's the correct thing to do.

What vote would have - even slightly - reduced Palestinian suffering in the short term. What would reduce it in the long term? Have new actions or moves by Israel changed what you thought months ago? Has the incoming administration signalled moves that will change the trajectory, relative to the current admin?

These are all things we need to reflect on

Biden should do something cool, since he's thinking about preemptive pardons...

One of the most on the nose scenes in the Wire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6r2a2PaQPI

The conversation (copied from IMDB)

Detective James 'Jimmy' McNulty : Guy leaves two dozen bodies scattered all over the city, no one gives a fuck.

Detective Lester Freamon : It's because who he dropped.

Detective William 'Bunk' Moreland : True that. You can go a long way in this country killin' black folk. Young males especially. Misdemeanor homicides.

Detective James 'Jimmy' McNulty : If Marlo was killin' white women...

Detective Lester Freamon : White children.

Detective William 'Bunk' Moreland : Tourists.

Detective James 'Jimmy' McNulty : One white ex-cheerleader tourist missin' in Aruba.

Detective William 'Bunk' Moreland : Trouble is, this ain't Aruba, bitch.

Detective Lester Freamon : You think that if 300 white people were killed in this city every year, they wouldn't send the 82nd Airborne? Negro, please.

Accuracy: the most important part of humor! It's so crucial to comedy that I have never, not in a million years, seen someone exaggerate for humorous effect. It's simply not done in civil society: so I thank you for the bravery you've shown by shining light on this horrid case of inaccurate humor.