this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
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Fuck Subscriptions

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Naming and shaming all "recurring spending models" where a one-time fee (or none at all) would be appropriate and logical.

Expect use of strong language.

Follow the basic rules of lemmy.world and common sense, and try to have fun if possible.

No flamewars or attacking other users, unless they're spineless corporate shills.

Note that not all subscriptions are awful. Supporting your favorite ~~camgirl~~ creator or Lemmy server on Patreon is fine. An airbag with subscription is irl Idiocracy-level dystopian bullshit.

New community rule: Shilling for cunty corporations, their subscriptions and other anti-customer practices may result in a 1-day ban. It's so you can think about what it's like when someone can randomly decide what you can and can't use, based on some arbitrary rules. Oh what, you didn't read this fine print? You should read what you're agreeing to.

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Some other groovy communities for those who wish to own their products, their data and their life:

Right to Repair/Ownership

Hedges Development

Privacy

Privacy Guides

DeGoogle Yourself

F-Droid

Stallman Was Right

Some other useful links:

FreeMediaHeckYeah

Louis Rossman's YouTube channel

Look at content hosted at Big Tech without most of the nonsense:

Piped

Invidious

Nitter

Teddit

 

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm astounded this business model somehow continues to exist.

[–] sramder 47 points 11 months ago

Feels like they waited just long enough for the initial controversy to die down. It's so pathetic to see HP reduced to the tech equivalent of a pay-day-loan business.

[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 3 points 11 months ago

I'm astounded anyone buys inkjet printers anymore, except for perhaps niche uses (photos maybe?). I will never not use laser as long as the options are that or inkjet.

[–] 0110010001100010 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Who the fuck still buys HP printers?! Or really HP anything?

I have a Lexmark color laser that's been rock solid. I know people love to push Brother, but I had a bad experience years ago that's left a sour taste in my mouth. I usually opt for Canon or Lexmark.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I bought an Epson ink tank and couldn't be happier

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

their business-grade laptops are decent ish i guess, like the elitebooks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Years ago I had an HP all-in-one. Every time I'd turn it on it would do a "print test" wasting ink. I got fed up one time and stomped that fucker to death office space style (without the Ghetto Boys accompaniment). Fuck HP in the ass with a rusty razor wire wrapped pipe.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

sounds like a real cathartic moment you had there smashing your machine, but when I was fed up with my printer I simply took it back to the store and got a refund.

🤑 💰

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I think I was detoxing at the time. Your solution was much more mature.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Keep buying third party ink, y'all.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Except at least some of the printers will refuse to work with anything except genuine HP ink cartridges.

The solution is never to have anything to do with Hewlett Packard, especially printers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People that sell third party ink are unfortunately opening themselves up to getting lawyered out of business. I only have anecdotal evidence from my own experience, but it wouldn't surprise me if the big boys intimidate 3rd party ink sellers (which are always smaller companies) with legal threats and the little guys either give up or go bankrupt from paying legal fees against a megacorp that drags out litigation as long as possible because they have lawyers on retainer so might as well put them to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

All the more reason to support them I'd say.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

People that just bought those printers and are still using the free ink cartridges that come with it are about to find out that when the cancel their subscription that the one that they are using will be disabled even if it wasn't part of the subscription.

HP stated that most customers save about 50% compared to normal printing. So, unless that number changes to 25% or less, then it is likely their ink cartridge prices are also going to increase or they'll add an asterisk for an out-of-date survey or whatever. Maybe both.

We'll see what happens but it will be cheaper to buy a printer that allows you to refill the ink in a market where businesses can compete or buy a laser printer where the initial cost is higher but the long term costs are much cheaper.

Let's see if the market creeps back up on inkjets to peak consumerism where it is just as expensive to replace the entire printer with a sampler ink pack than it is to buy a new ink pack.

[–] morriscox 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who only prints 10 pages in a month?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't even print ten pages in a year. But for that reason I do not own a printer and just go to the library when I do need one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean the communist bookstore? We need to enact legislation to get those into a subscription model, so as to promote innovation and protect our children.

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Jeeze, don't give them any ideas! Maybe we should start calling taxes subscriptions....

[–] pikmeir 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Finally switched from HP to Brother earlier this year and very happy with the upgrade. No more dealing with ink that dries out in under a year. Toner's more expensive but lasts longer and the quality is great for anything that's not supposed to be a photo-quality print (which I never have needed to do).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I've come to rely on the brother app. It works decently well and prints everything you ask it too with little hassle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Man, I'm so happy I switched to Epson. Their ink lasts a lot longer for me and I haven't had as many problems with the printer itself as I did with my HP one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm usually against these kinds of comments, but HP CAN DIE IN FLAMING INFERNO OF HOG SHIT.