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[–] mesamunefire 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love the idea of charging and easy to replace batteries.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I have to ask why? I can't see any positives outside of fleet vehicles and there are plenty of negatives.

[–] silverbax 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Speed, for one. 5 minutes vs 30 minutes to an hour to be fully charged. Makes a big difference for road trips where you need to recharge on the way.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I agree. Lots of EVs have a 250+ mile range. I'd need a 30 minute break after driving that kind of distance.

[–] mean_bean279 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My wife thinks I’m insane, but my whole family is built where we would drive 10+ hours (710miles~) a couple times a year with only 1 stop at mile like 500 for fuel and a snack. Otherwise we’d just keep going. Some people don’t need a break for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time when driving. Of my friend group (20th people) on road trips only 2/3 need stops every so often. Even my wife has adjusted to my driving nature.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I'd be really interested to see the results of response time testing on drives that long. You might be highly anomalous but most people begin to suffer significant attention and reaction penalties after around an hour that get steadily worse.

I know that when I try do multitask testing (a significant part of driving) after 2 hours of continuous driving my results are like 50% of freshly rested. I'd be surprised if you were anywhere capable of navigating an emergency reliably after 4 hours.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah I can do 10 hour drives also. My partner needs to use the restroom every 30 minutes. If they've had any amount of water, it's every 15 minutes.

[–] mean_bean279 2 points 9 months ago

The first road trip my wife and I did when we were dating I was like 45 into the drive and she said “I have to pee” right after she had gone at the house. It set me up for a trip where I was stopping about once every 2ish hours or so. She was drinking a ton of water and didn’t realize she should pace herself.

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[–] Dkarma 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lol I just drove 14 hours one way for thxgiving. Waiting 30+ min every 250 miles is a deal breaker.. I can gas and piss in less than ten min once every 400 miles. You'd add like 5 hours to that drive at least. Just waiting for charges.

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[–] mesamunefire 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (17 children)

Repairability. A battery should be able to be replaced.

Having options is good for the consumer.

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[–] dustyData 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I find this kind of comments so stupid. The technology is well beyond proven. Logistics have had swappable batteries for over 15 years since the time of acid batteries. Nio is a rental company first and for them the model seems to be working. It's compelling for road trips specially since most of the charging stations are broken most of the time and for extremely dense cities where people aren't allowed to access power plugs at parking spaces. I mean, on the suburbanite hellscape, charging at home will always make more sense, but the US is not the entirety of the world. This things seem to be ripe for success in Asia and Europe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's compelling for road trips specially since most of the charging stations are broken most of the time

Do you think the battery swap station won't be broken too?

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[–] Dkarma 2 points 9 months ago

20 below and you can swap out the battery quickly. Can't charge it if it's dead.

[–] RunningInRVA 20 points 9 months ago (21 children)

I believe battery and charging technology will eventually overcome the need for this.

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[–] silverbax 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone have knowledge of Nio and the long term viability? Are they targeting the US, or just China and Europe?

EDIT: found some info that Nio is targeting selling in the US in 2025.

[–] mesamunefire 2 points 9 months ago

It will be nice to have the options for EVs.

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