You mean just like how we learned about the 1920 pandemic?
Oh right, no we didn't. It was a footnote at best.
Our current lives really aren't all that special you know.
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Uh, what? I absolutely was taught about the 1920s pandemic. Not so much about the disease itself or how the pandemic was handled, admittedly, but certainly about how it affected society and the politics of the time. It wasn't a whole unit by itself, but it was definitely more than a footnote.
I guess I was taught it. There was a paragraph in our history text about it. The teacher said a sentence or two on it.
I think this time period in humanity is very special. It really does feel like the make or break of humanity sometimes.
That's because you're alive right now. Obviously the events you experience yourself seem weightier than the events you've only read about.
Not in the same way.
You could maybe argue atom bombs and cold war was a similar time for such crucial moments in humanity, but now we also got climate change, another rise in fascism, and we got tons of nukes on top. And plenty of other things which I won't bother to delve into because I should sleep.
It all went to shit after Harambe died
This actually caused a parallel universe split and sadly we got the dark timeline.
The 2020s were very important (and very rough) in Star Trek lore, too. Slightly different, but the similarities are striking...
Bell Riots when?
I learned about it.
I did too, but i'm over 40 so I can't say much for current educational systems.
Imma be honest, most of these events will either be just quickly mentioned or not even taught
Increased forest fires, covid, January 6, Shinzo Abe getting assassinated, and Ukraine will probably be mentioned.
Going past 2022, the India/Canada thing and Palestine will probably only be taught worldwide if they change the status quo. The string of military coups across Africa is definitely going to lead to something bigger, so that will probably be taught, and we’re probably in the “buildup” stages for a future event, when you look at the rise of neofascist leaders just everywhere.
None of these events are noteworthy by themselves. Max they merit part of a sentence as an example of an ongoing trend.
Exception if one of the events turns out to be a handy symbolic point to indicate a change in the world order.
E.g. Serious human contribution to global warming which started in the early 20th century kept a pace and peaked in the early 21st century. Public opinion began to sour after an increased occurrence of climate disasters, such as tsunamis and forest fires.
Or: The Russian successor state to the soviet union did make token efforts to reassert its power in Eastern Europe, such as the 2021 war in Ukraine. However those efforts ultimately proved futile and by 20xx all former Warsaw pact countries, excluding Russia itself, had joined the European union.
I guess it depends on how far out you go. In 500 years, probably not significant. In 50-75 years (I was thinking about 20th century timelines when I was thinking about significance), maybe the forest fires and Jan. 6 aren’t hugely relevant if there’s nothing that builds on them, but COVID, Abe and Ukraine would have been taught in my school. We learned about the Spanish flu, the assaasination of William McKinley and the Crimean war, which seem similar and only the Crimean war was really connected to anything else by our teachers.
Did you learn about the 1920's pandemic?
He just said he learned about the Spanish flu
Not that I can remember. Did it shut down the entire world for several months and lay the groundwork for consolidation of money and power on a scale not seen before?
If so, I should have.
Edit: I’m dumb. I did learn about the Spanish flu, but I think of that as happening in the teens.
Idk if we’d be taught about Abe in my school not because it isn’t important but because foreign country. We didn’t even bother learning about the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan (American school obviously). I assume Japanese schools will learn about that for a very long time, especially as to my knowledge he’s their first head of state to be assassinated.
McKinley is important sure (though a lot of why his assassination is important isn’t talked about), but as the conflict he was killed over was, I hate to say mild, but as far as successful assassination of a sitting US president goes, gilded age anarchists vs capitalists was no civil war or Cold War.
And there are 4 assassinated sitting presidents. Every American knows who shot Lincoln and why. Every American knows that JFK was shot and whether or not they believe that it was by him they know Lee Harvey Oswald is who the government agrees did it, though I’d say Oswald’s ties to communism are less well known. Most Americans have heard McKinley was shot. I had to look up if there were more because 3 seemed too few, I had forgotten one, and idk if I learned about it in school.
We're in the "Archduke Franz Ferdinand goes for a drive" stage in history.
I didn’t look anything up, just listed the world events I could remember for the last two years and panicked a little. I don’t know how long we have, but it certainly seems like we’re heading to a world war.
I wonder if history books will notate the death of a gorilla as the flag for a turning point in social history.
I wonder if that kid remembers
Shinzo Abe won't, neither will forest fires or January 6
It really depends on what comes next. If the US has a civil war in the next few years over maga, January sixth will matter. Same for if Japan goes very far right as a response. The forest fires probably not. They were the first sign of this wild El Niño though (iirc), so if we pull things together and actually do something about climate change because of all the storms over the next few years, it would be a convenient point to mention.
Lmfao sure bud
Abe's assassination was notable in Japan, but didn't have major global ramifications. I think it's unlikely it'll be taught much outside of Japan.
The forest fires will likely only be mentioned in a general "climate change was ramping up" kind of way.
Jan 6 would definitely be a major event for the Trump administration chapter. But it would highly depend on which country you live in whether or not it would be given much attention.
Just as a comparison: we've been taught about the fall of the Berlin wall. Who Reagan was was barely a paragraph in that chapter.
Unless you're German. Then there is a 50% chance of going into every little handshake, OR you skip over it entirely to teach more about WW2
"So we are a nation with history, but let's get to WW2 right now"
I learned in my entire school life NOTHING of history besides about Nazis
I wish the AfD voters would have paid attention during their school life.
"it was a golden age, companies had record profits..."
History is written by the victors
Poor Victors. You're just living your life, having a name you thought was normal when all of a sudden Bam! You're put in the history mines. Forced to pump out tomes until your fingers break from the strain.
History is written by the victors subordinates.
FTFY
Hmm... children, in the 2050s, in schools, ah to dream.
These last 5 years have just a utter shit show so many people who shouldn't have been allowed near power getting it
"Well, back in my day, ikeas were endless mazes with no exit and no one could agree on whether to like everyone or hate evryone"
*2015
*2025
First, we're not even sure humanity will last until 2050
Second, children will be able to study everything with slides containing memes about our time
I’m from Germany. All the history we get taught is the French revolution (for some unspoken reason), three times, and Nazi Germany. I don’t think that will change.