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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Hell yeah, a baby free life is very liberating

[–] Pregnenolone 12 points 10 months ago

I mean I prefer my kid shits in a nappy than on the floor so I wouldn’t call it stupid.

Also breastmilk

[–] PP_BOY_ 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Me, asking my stupid stuff to take care of me and manage my estate when I have early Alzheimers from a lifetime of microplastic exposure:

[–] Fosheze 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you're having kids just to hand them the obligation of taking care of you then maybe you shouldn't be having kids.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

That's how most kids are made. This PSA was brought to you by: the third world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Estate? Look at mister fancy pants over here

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

WTF is that expression?

WTF is he doing with his hands?

[–] Mercury 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Ice In My Veins Pose, also known as the TikTok Arm Thing

Yup. I'm too old for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

man these dumb ass antinatalism memes should have stayed at Reddit and I don't even have or want kids.

[–] PunnyName 6 points 10 months ago

Childfree all day, every day.

[–] pigup 3 points 10 months ago

I have child, it's a life decision ( we decided to do it and willingly gave up past freedoms). It's ok we signed up for this, please don't do it if you don't want to, world will be a much better place if only willing people become parent eh?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a really good question right there: While children are expensive as fuck, they do prevent loneliness and wild shopping sprees because they keep you from going online for long enough. So: Are children actually saving you money in the long run because they stop the root for buying stupid shit and keep you busy enough so that you ain't even thinking about getting said stupid shit?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Given that raising a child is, from a sourceless quick google, about $20-30k a year, they better not be. As for loneliness, a cat’s about $650 a year, and makes a similar level of intelligent conversation for the first ten years or so.

[–] blady_blah 4 points 10 months ago

IMO, children in their early life are mainly expensive in opportunity costs, assuming you have a full time parent taking care of the child. Diapers are food are relatively cheap but taking a parent out of the work force or the alternate, providing day care, is very expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What the? Where I live, a kid costs between 350 and 700 per month, 250€ monthly tax reduction/month/child by the government not factored in

[–] illumrial 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm so jealous. I've got two kids in the United States and it cost almost $3k per month in daycare alone. We're not taking them to an incredibly fancy daycare either!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear... Those are the things people need to be reminded of when they brag about the oh so high average wages in the US. Daycare here is 400/Month max. I mean, you can go more expensive of course for some fancy rich-kid-establishment of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

sourceless quick google

It could be including childcare, increased housing costs for larger housing, any myriad of things.

https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/cost-raise-child-2023#:~:text=The%20ongoing%20costs%20of%20child,the%20U.S.%20is%20%2420%2C813%20annually.

This was the article at the top of google. Looks like yeah childcare + housing are the majority of the costs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

a similar level of intelligent conversation for the first ten years or so.

At first I thought that was hyperbole. Then I remembered my friend’s 8yo…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Admittedly, I don't have a cat, but I would have thought they're more expensive than that. My parents had / have cats. A vet bill is like $150 a pop.

I think I'd want one of those self-cleaning litter boxes as well (if I had a cat). Those start around $600, right?

[–] TrickDacy 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well vets visits shouldn't be much more frequent than once a year, and believe it or not, $600 litter boxes are optional. Also, whatever litterbox you buy should last more than a year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

All fair points, but 2 unexpected vet bills in one year has a high stress tax as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As for loneliness, a cat’s about $650 a year,

Vet costs not included.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, and the child could have an extremely expensive form of ass cancer. Unless you mean routine costs, which were covered by the article I yanked that number from without reading

https://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/resources/cat-ownership-cost/#:~:text=How%20Much%20Does%20a%20Cat,to%20around%20%2453%20a%20month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fair, for me that would be covered by healthcare insurance, while pet insurance is a massive scam.

I realize things are probably different in the US.

[–] JTskulk -2 points 10 months ago

Breeders BTFO