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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Legit though, the home stop could be dereliction of duty, but shopping?

That's actually encouraged in some places, so long as the cop stays in radio contact. It puts officers in contact with people while in uniform, in as close to a zero threat situation as they can be while running around in uniform. Makes businesses feel safe, supposedly deters theft and robbery even when they're not there because you don't know when they'll be back.

Is san Antonio not one of the places that encourages "community" policing?

Edit: Ignore most of that. I went back to the article because it genuinely confused me. The page had frozen on me the first time, so I didn't see the rest of it.

It wasn't just shopping that was the problem. It was when he was doing it, and the fact that he cut off his body cam. Dude was ignoring calls he'd been sent on to do the shit, and saying that he went on the calls, but didn't need to do anything (and the kind of calls would have needed action that would need reports).

[–] DougHolland 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Back to the shopping thing... I can see the PR value of a uniformed cop buying groceries, but what's the cop supposed to do with what they've bought if they can't go home right away and put them into the freezer?

[–] BenadrylChunderHatch 2 points 1 year ago

Just strap them to the body of the next person they shoot and pick them up from the morgue later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would say either restrict it to small things, or allow a drop off (the cop in question was spending much more time than it would take to drop off groceries, even putting stuff away)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He should have killed someone while he was out. Then he would have gotten paid leave.

[–] ericisshort 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sound too smart to be a cop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Guilty as charged. Or am I?

[–] skeezix 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow without pay. Holy shit he must have pissed someone off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Should've murdered someone while he was at the store, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’d love it if all the cops in my town did this shit. Cops not doing their jobs would be a boon for everyone.