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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Carvex 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

...and? We know, they don't care.

[–] executive_chicken 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When will the time come when the rich are back on the menu?

[–] Carvex 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When corn won't grow, perhaps we eat some grilled billionaire ribs

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The average global 1% is your doctor or your middle manager boss, not a billionaire.

[–] Zron 3 points 1 year ago

That’s not how averages or percentages work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

140k/yr USD is still well within the class of people who care. Basically every doctor in America falls into that category.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's this temptation to believe that global warming is only caused by a very small group of unrepentant greedy assholes, when the fact of the matter is that it really is a systemic issue caused by essentially everyone in a moderately developed country.

Sure, most emissions can be traced to a handful of companies, but we've quite recently seen what happens when the price of gas spikes even a little bit and people lose their god damn minds. Companies go for cheap polluting practice because consumers demand everything be as cheap as possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's income though. The rich don't have income, they have property. Top 1% wealth is more like $13 million.

That site also says top 1% income is more like 400k (individual) to 600k (household). (Edit: though those are us numbers not global.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

140k is the stat used in the article this post linked

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this works as a reminder.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

being wealthy is unethical

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"World's richest 1%" is 81,000,000 people, FYI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It should be noted that the category of 'world's richest 1%' includes quite a lot of Americans. If you've ever flown for a vacation, there's a decent chance you're included in that category. This is not the Musks and Bezos and Gates of the world; it's the doctors, lawyers, tech workers, and middle managers.

[–] kemsat 2 points 1 year ago

They also own almost all of the other carbon emitting facilities & vehicles. So they’re responsible for most of the carbon emissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

start a go fund me to get AC for these people?

[–] ExfilBravo 1 points 1 year ago

Rich people are that "this is fine" meme. Chilling while the world burns around them.