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[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 years ago (32 children)

Yesterday they made higher education less accessible to non-whites, today they made it harder for the poor...

I wonder if there's a pattern here.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But the forgiven PPP loans are A-OK, right? Fuck this shit.

[–] SENEX 18 points 2 years ago

On top of that 1.7 trillion in tax breaks for the rich over ten year. Benifits like 600 people. The same 1.7 trillion could wipe out debt 43 million people and that is debt accumulated over 40 years.

[–] acchariya 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Der djerb creators rabble rabble rabble

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fuck Trump and his supreme court. We're going to be suffering the effects of Republican stupidity for the next 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If you need any reason not to believe in god, it's that Trump got to appoint THREE FUCKING SUPREME COURT JUSTICES

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It’s Republican moral bankruptcy and cruelty that we will all suffer. If anyone’s stupidity got us here, it’s the Democratic Party’s stupid leadership since AT LEAST 2000, if not earlier. Republicans have telegraphed their intentions for 50 fuckin years and Democrats continued over and over to attempt reaching across the aisle, trying to pass bipartisan wins, “take the high road,” … all the while the Republican party continued putting their racist, xenophobic, mysoginistic, jingoistic, classist platform out year after year, abandoning all sense of decorum and norms, gerrymandering the fuck out of every district possible, blocking every bill that helps anyone aside from billionaires and corporations, and generally lying and cheating their way to what we have today.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

since AT LEAST 2000

Democrats: It's just a coincidence that two lawyers who worked on the Supreme Court case that handed Bush the election in 2000 happen to be Supreme Court Justices today!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Unless the dems take back court we would be all living through a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered.

Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her.

Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep.

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to ~~not play~~ flip the table and play a different game.

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[–] Spacebar 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Vote! Encourage those around you to vote. Help drive someone to the polls. If you know a young person who's never voted, get them to vote.

Don't care who they vote for, just get them to the ballot box.

The more people vote, the better things turn out for the majority.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

I know this will likely upset many Dems but:

Dems have the Senate and the Presidency and are completely within their power to pack the Supreme Court and basically alter all of the terrible rulings the Supreme Court has made lately. The problem is that many Dems do not think it is worth packing the court for women, students, or the environment. You can't just vote your way out of this as you would literally have to pack up and move to West Virginia to vote for a Senator who would be ultimately determining this.

The system is ultimately flawed and just voting isn't enough.

Addition after some research:

It looks like the Supreme Court is set in size by law and FDR had some of the same problems so it would be likely that this would take an act of congress and not just the Senate.

Ultimately I feel this is certainly more difficult and makes my criticism of inaction now invalid as Dems do not hold enough of a majority to pass legislation; however I do still see them as responsible for inaction when majorities have been held throughout my lifetime.

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[–] ramblechat 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t have kids but am perfectly happy to pay more tax to make education free or cheaper. How can anyone argue that a less educated society is better? The more people that can experience higher education is plainly a good thing. There could be someone out there who could make a medical or technological breakthrough but doesn’t get the chance because they can’t afford to go to college.

[–] Lev_Astov 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I think the main argument is that this isn't the way to go about that. The universities are totally out of control and need to be forced to curb their spending to make things more affordable before we just start handing them public funding like this.

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[–] Raphael 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another W for capitalism, another L for the worker class.

[–] zombuey 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

most of what's happening in todays world is not a W for capitalism. Modern conservative thoughts on capitalism have long abandoned the necessary regulation of free markets we enforced for 2 centuries. capitalism only works if markets continually divide winners at the top. If you don't bust monopolies then capitalism begins to rapidly break down. We've known that for a long time and only recently stopped. You lose all the benefits of capitalism without that feature. What we have in America isn't capitalism really at all anymore. This whole concept that the government has no role in capitalism and free markets will always correct themselves is a myth and we've known that since before America. John Locke knew that he was a tax collector for the english crown.

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[–] spiphy 24 points 2 years ago

The dissent is worth a read. It really highlights how bad a decision this is.

[–] GiddyGap 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I always vote for Democrats up and down the ballot. But this just confirms my choice once again. Hopefully the 26 million people the Republicans screwed over will come to the same conclusion.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow. The SCOTUS is firing through all sorts of shitty changes this week. They’re like the koolaid man on meth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna be this way for the foreseeable future

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How many were paid off by the student loan companies.

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[–] G59 12 points 2 years ago

The middle class taking constant Ls

[–] zipdog 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can anyone clarify if this strikes down Biden's plan in it's entirety or just the lump s forgiveness? TBH I always considered the rest of the plan that fixes ballooning interest and unaffordable monthly payments the meat of this plan. The 10k is just meh and isn't really fixing anything long term. Would be really unfortunate if the former got screwed by the latter

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My "favorite" part of the majority ruling is how the loan forgiveness was struck down because it would harm the loan servicers. Not the government, not the people, the companies that have been contracted to collect the loans. That's who SCOTUS is most concerned with. Should tell us everything we need to know about who's interests are most important - capitalists

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