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[–] Bye 140 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Taiwan is not part of China

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

China is part of Taiwan.

Or more precisely, PRC is rebelled provinces of China.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

West Taiwan

[–] FuglyTheBear 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hello from Taiwan, while your heart's in the right place this meme actually plays into China's hands as it fits their one-china narrative. Taiwan considers itself an independent nation and hopes the wider international community will begin treating it as such.

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[–] pigup 10 points 7 months ago
[–] Agent641 2 points 7 months ago

Nice try, Xi!

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh man Hexbear would be so pissed if they could read.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Taiwan can use VPN (not restricted) and not against the law. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] SaakoPaahtaa 28 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Against Taiwanese law. Taiwan is an independent nation and its liberty is non-negotiable.

[–] Agent641 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China coast guard coming to put a big net around your house as we speak.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa 2 points 7 months ago

I can see they're already building small sand atolls off the coast

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[–] itsnotits 4 points 7 months ago

against whose* law

[–] carl_dungeon 45 points 7 months ago

Weird, it’s almost like they all have something in common…

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Tankies hate this one weird trick

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Tankies are baned Russia, apparently they are subversive. It seems that no one likes them very much.

[–] yokonzo 34 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Thank god this list isn’t any larger, it’s amazing more governments haven’t tried to ban this tool that ensures people’s freedoms

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Thing is, a VPN isn't just some magic tool that lets you view location-restricted content and hides your IP address. It's a relatively basic networking concept.

Essentially, it allows you to connect two or more local networks, i.e. LANs, as if they were one big LAN.
In particular, that means no firewalls in the way, no weird NAT behaviour, no need to deal with public IP addresses and so on.
And it secures the whole communication with encryption + implements a form of authentication, so that you can leave the individual services within the VPN relatively unsecured (assuming you don't separately expose them outside the LAN/VPN).

Or more concretely, my dayjob uses a VPN for the whole home office thing. And I've used VPNs plenty times just as a networking tool in my software developer job. Prohibiting the entire concept of VPNs makes many software solutions impossible or annoying to build, and will cause folks to expose insecure services to the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The UK government tried to restrict VPN usage (not that they ever explained what restrict meant in that scenario) but as with most stupid things that the UK government says, everyone just ignored them and then it didn't happen.

I suspect somebody with two brain cells to rub together explain to them the process and since it sounded complicated they gave up with it.

[–] Agent641 3 points 7 months ago

I believe Australia tried to ban encryption. Not just VPNs, but all encryption. Like, bruh good luck with that. Source: trust me bro (im an Australian and therefore too lazy to figure out if this is hyperbole or not)

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[–] Land_Strider 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just to make it clear, the VPN restriction in Turkey is not enforced, nor hindered. Of course it was put in place as a form of restriction against people's protest organization via Twitter back in 2013 during the Gezi Park protests, but it is not enforced (at least widely, if at all). Even the leading opposition party has an official support for a VPN under their name.

Nevertheless, as far as the map's intent goes, it is an indicator of a dictatorship.

[–] recapitated 5 points 7 months ago

Pictures of playing cards on websites get entire subnets blocked for gambling in Turkey, so I'm surprised to learn they don't enforce rules against VPNs.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The same list as countries that you should never step your foot on

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Hey look, it's the bad guys!

EDIT: Not sure why OP downvoted me unless he's a bootlicking authoritarian piece of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How does well does Tor work in those countries?

[–] lostme 2 points 7 months ago

Inconsistently and only through relays

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What do businesses do with remote offices/workers?

[–] loxdogs 3 points 7 months ago

you can't use VPN were endpoint is used read censored materials. If it's within the country, than OK

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can't speak for most of these places but I'm pretty doubtful in general.

I have no idea what it means for VPNs to be restricted in Turkey for example.. I use them almost every day. Personal, self hosted, commercial, corporate... Both using them while I'm in Turkey to get information from the outside and when I'm outside trying to get information from the inside.

I've never had any issue using them. Like literally ever.

[–] AtmaJnana 4 points 7 months ago

https://protonvpn.com/blog/are-vpns-illegal/

In 2016, the Erdogan regime began blocking VPN services and Tor. Now Turkey is using deep packet inspection techniques, similar to China, to detect and block VPN and Tor traffic. 

The use of a VPN connection in Turkey can also mark you out as a person of interest for law enforcement. Despite this, VPN usage in Turkey is quite widespread. 

The website Turkey Blocks monitors internet censorship in Turkey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Retrograde 2 points 7 months ago

Believe or not, straight to jail

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
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