this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2023
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[–] [email protected] 175 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Not being allowed to remove an app has lead about two people to switch from windows in the last 10000years.

[–] Agent641 97 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When will the EU force Vim to let users out?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Hit Esc then type "q!" <- how hard was that? Don't listen to the vimxit liars

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Don't forget the ':' before the q!, when you type ':' you enter command mode, the q command quits the file and putting an exclamation mark after the q doesn't save the file and forces the file to be closed

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[–] Telodzrum 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I still dual boot for a few games and one piece of hardware that just don’t work on GNU/Linux, but I’m almost certainly never going back.

There was an ad for Tik Tok in my Start Menu after the last update. Fuck everything about that sentence.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Uhh what hardware isn't working? Is it something really niche? For some reason I like hearing about stuff like that.

[–] Telodzrum 13 points 7 months ago

It’s an old audio card. The output and input work, but it retains the volume level and mix settings as last adjusted in Windows. I’ll replace it eventually with a DAC and amp, which is what we put together for my wife’s build last year.

It’s the nuAudio card (non-pro version) from EVGA. There are a few work around a, one of which is backflashing old firmware to get some level of control in Linux, but I don’t like the tradeoff and a couple of my Elite: Dangerous tools don’t work well on Linux anyway, so I need the Windows install for that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s even better when you work in a corporate environment, pay more for the Enterprise or Pro version and still get ads about TikTok and Candy Crush forced onto your users! 😁

Why yes, Microsoft, I was expecting for you to forcefully install mobile games onto our computers in our network.

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[–] tdawg 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know it's a meme but it's crazy to me that some people think the average person cares about computers at all (let alone what OS is running)

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[–] eruchitanda 75 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But they still won't be able to remove all of the baked-in spyware.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Try Ubuntu, you can uninstall the baked in spyware

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Time for Ubuntu to ship with a mandatory Edge installation

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Don’t give them any ideas

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

meanwhile, me on Arch: yay -S microsoft-edge-stable-bin

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Yeah, as if Arch was not bleeding edge enough.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (10 children)

People have already proven they will put up with about anything Microsoft throws at them, so they were never going to switch anyway.

Also you still can't uninstall the bootloader under windows.😆

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (5 children)

It's going to be one of those things where someone is either going to switch to Linux or they're not. Most people will take convenience over privacy.

[–] PopOfAfrica 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, Windows isn't even that much more convenient. It's just what people are used to.

Now that I'm used to Linux Windows makes me pull my hair out.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Funny. For me switching to Linux was actually a convenience and aesthetics over privacy ngl.

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[–] vynlwombat 39 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I'm not really concerned about getting more people to use Linux. Am I the only one?

[–] JGrffn 19 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I feel like I don't really care what my peers use, or what people in general use, but the more adoption linux desktop gets, the more people getting involved in community projects there are, as well as more bug reports and the like, so the sooner things get improved upon and the better they become.

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[–] skygirl 19 points 7 months ago

As a person who cares about the gaming ecosystem, I think it would be really healthy for Microsoft to not have full market dominance.

They're busy making studio acquisitions which are gradually centralizing the market, which could become very problematic if they start taking anticompetitive approaches to distribution.

More people on Linux means more pressure for software availability on Linux, and if people can just move over relatively easily that prevents Microsoft from going full corpo-digital-prison-hellscape.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Well, more people on Linux means more software support.

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[–] synapse1278 38 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Lets be honest, people don't switch to Linux because it's better, we switch because of the cute pinguin mascot !

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[–] sebinspace 34 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Who gives a shit what other people use?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Too many Linux users do, unfortinuately.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

It's a little naive to think that this was an incentive to use Linux for ppl in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

Idk, the whole "Megacorp is forced to do reasonable thing, but will still only do so in regions where the law applies" should further encourage people to move away from all their crap.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Overnight, millions will suddenly somehow become European.

I wonder if they will try IP based Geo enforcement? How long do you think before Rufus allows flipping the bit to force this globally on install?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. A lot of people simply don't care about their browser enough to take any action, let alone to bypass geo-restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

The people who do care have already switched to Linux.

[–] JackSkellington 28 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Shouldn’t the same be applied to MacOS? There are a myriad of stupid apps impossible to uninstall. Maybe even safari

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

Don't worry, there's still plenty of reasons Windows sucks and they'll only make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Oh man, I'd love to use Linux because then I wouldn't have to have Edge installed!" - Nobody. Ever.

People use Windows because it comes with the PC and it runs all their shit (maybe except some yellowing-beige and blue scanner from 1997) with no fucking about needed. They were never incentivised to use Linux. They don't know what an OS is, and more importantly, they don't care.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (10 children)

As someone who has has tried repeatedly for more than ten years to use Linux, Linux is already doing a good enough job at that without their help.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The year of Linux cancelled. /s

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I disagree with the premise, but even if it's true that people stay with Windows because it sucks less, that's still a success story for Linux. External comparative pressure leading to more end user freedom. Think of where it could go next!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

What are the limits of this new law? Certainly state sponsored spyware are protected from this, for example

[–] cley_faye 12 points 7 months ago

The overlap of people that will not remove the initial bloat (even if it's a button displayed prominently on first start) and people inclined to use Linux in the first place is not that great.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Edge isn't as bad nowadays, and it's not much more of a spyware than Google Chrome, the meme browser.

[–] Sheeple 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Which still is pretty bad. Honestly we should avoid chromium.

But as far as chromium is concerned, yeah Edge is pretty good. I used it until the anti adblock shenanigans

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