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    [–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You could definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took you to make this

    [–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I cannot even determine the culprit, to whom am I supposed to file a bug report?

    [–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    At https://bugzilla.mozilla.org maybe? Or just look up "firefox report bug" online, I guess

    [–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't know if Firefox is at fault. It could be Firedragon (the fork I'm using), it could be any of the desktop portals messing things up (looking at you, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk), it could be Arch Linux due to how packagers package each portal, it could be that I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland - this is when the problem first occurred.

    Firedragon's (and the Firefox flatpak's) output doesn't say anything, nothing stands out in their logs, same goes for both Sway and Hyprland - for all I know XDG portals don't even have standalone logs, they just dump error messages to stdout in my experience (which, again, have not been dumped).

    I could send bug reports to everyone, and get told "this isn't our problem, write a bug report to ${OTHER_SOFTWARE}". But then, which logs do I provide? All of them? Sure, I can gather up logs and non-existent messages from several pieces of software, one of them being a glorified API.

    It would have taken me a good hour to find the relevant data, find the correct places to write reports to, word things in a quasi-professional manner, all for a small chance for any of the developers of something to answer something that is not a variation of "can't help you bro, your logs are anorexic".

    So, after reminiscing the days of writing Windows registry keys and seeing no results (by writing XDP hints all over the system AND rebooting), I took 10 minutes to vent and make a meme - NoScript was intefering with imgflip, otherwise I would have needed 3.

    I could not, in fact, definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took me to make this.

    [–] Rednax 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The peak linux experience.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Odd, that's exactely what my friends tell me when I'm playing BG3 and a bug causes me to get stuck in dialogue (in a Windows 10 VM)

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    [–] FangedWyvern42 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Firedragon is a fork of Librewolf (which is a fork of Firefox), not Firefox. It’s not Firefox at fault.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Case in point

    (although Firefox (the Firefox Firefox) also refused to work)

    [–] paraphrand 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I hate not knowing if my bug report is valid.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In that case you could maybe see if it works correctly for you in firefox installed via flatpak from flathub. Those are official builds and bug reports on them should go to Mozilla directly.

    It could be related to hyprland though. I think I read somewhere that one of those lightweight WMs (or whatever it really is idk sry lol) doesn't ship a portals config file for x-d-p to exactly know which exact implementation to use. Maybe arch doesn't have that issue though

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    I've read through all the possible bug reports and forum help requests, and used the flatpak Firefox at every point I tried a solution.

    In the end I managed to solve the problem, though I'm sure it'll pop back out at some point.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland

    That's 100% what it is. Changing desktop environments has almost always led to issues in my experience. If you want to use a different DE, make a new user account or reinstall the distro.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Everyone involved, worst case they just close them

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    As I said in another other comment to someone else, there is a quite noticeable difference in effort between typing sentences on imgflip and hunting bugs.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, you've determined a major part of what's causing it. There is not much more to add, just submit what you have.

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    [–] nogrub 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] indepndnt 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This incident has been logged.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

    this is so much better though

    [–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Addendum: I reinstalled the GTK portal because I was desperate, now I can't even use that UX abomination because who the

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    knows

    (As it turns out, the cause was a previous attempt to get xdg-desktop-portal-termfilechooser to work - I'm just going to sneak this edit in here and go die in a corner or something)

    [–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah yes, something being broken because of your previous attempt to fix it.
    That's a certified classic.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

    It's not even that, I wanted to try using Ranger as the file chooser because Dolphin would freeze up if it ended up in a tmpfs mount point... which I can deal with if the only alternative is the default GTK file chooser.

    [–] balancedchaos 6 points 1 year ago

    My recent DNS issue agrees with you. smh

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    My package manager has 400+ updates, but I can’t install them because some packages are conflicting, and I don’t have the willpower to untangle that mess.

    ~~I use arch btw~~. I use the arch-derivative Manjaro, btw.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    ~~First time?~~

    jdk-openjdk vs jre-openjdk? archlinux.org mentions it, although the workaround it provides is fake news and also results in pacman complaining about conflicts.

    I just removed stuff, abused pacman --nodeps and prayed that my backups would be sufficient to restore my inevitable fuckup (no fuckup happened, somehow). Try that at your own risk though...

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    I think I’ll just switch to something more user-friendly again. When I installed Manjaro, I thought I liked tinkering. But since then I’ve started working and just want to get home to a functioning computer.

    I appreciate the effort, though.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

    Arch and Manjaro tend to have that effect on people, it's understandable

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    I feel this, Fedora filled the gap for me. I needed more current software, but if that isn't a priority Debian is amazing.

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    [–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

    @OP, join us in Tumbleweed land. I tried arch btw but it drove me crazy. I don't have endless hours on end to spend on DIY when I am in a hurry to get things to just work™. Tumbleweed with KDE is a refreshing take on the bleeding-edge rolling release distro with sensible defaults and much less teeth gnashing. With arch btw I felt like the whole thing was held together with duct tape and prayers. And I'm certain whatever I did in arch btw, there's an "ackchyually, ..." guy who is going to say that that was wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    Sigh... Another day on lemme, another distro to try lol

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Tried tumbleweed on my laptop, bog standard install with only defaults, first update with the GUI, completely deleted all grub configurations but gave no errors or warning on the GUI. Happened twice in a row.

    Updating for CLI with YaST had no issues. Wanted to love it, but got a bad taste literal minutes after install.

    I am fine on Arch, but I just wanted less hassle and ended up with more hassle. Maybe I will try again soon

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

    Also why for fucks sake does firefox do it's own mime type management and does not respect default applications set on system level!

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I dont understand this. I just let it open explorer.exe

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    At the expense of missing what could potentially be a deadpan ironic comment, I would like to divert your attention to the name of the community this meme was posted on

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

    I don't understand. I read this on edge.exe.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Had to nuke xdg-desktop-portal recently. AGAIN. Because they keep introducing a regression that causes all the GTK apps to run at a snails pace and totally ruins the desktop experience. I HATE xdg-desktop-portal. This has happened at least twice before. They can't seem to get their shit together. I wish I could just be rid of it entirely.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

    I love Firefox and it's my main browser on laptop and mobile.

    But as a KDE user, seriously, fuck it. It's a mess.

    [–] Rustmilian 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
    [–] grue 20 points 1 year ago

    Firefox nightie? What, did new merch just drop?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I wasn't planning on installing another browser (ignore the post's title), and joining a Matrix chat for technical help is the last thing I would do due to me being socially awkward...

    I appreciate the advice though

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

    My brother it's a matrix chat not a public speaking event

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