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    [–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't know if Firefox is at fault. It could be Firedragon (the fork I'm using), it could be any of the desktop portals messing things up (looking at you, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk), it could be Arch Linux due to how packagers package each portal, it could be that I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland - this is when the problem first occurred.

    Firedragon's (and the Firefox flatpak's) output doesn't say anything, nothing stands out in their logs, same goes for both Sway and Hyprland - for all I know XDG portals don't even have standalone logs, they just dump error messages to stdout in my experience (which, again, have not been dumped).

    I could send bug reports to everyone, and get told "this isn't our problem, write a bug report to ${OTHER_SOFTWARE}". But then, which logs do I provide? All of them? Sure, I can gather up logs and non-existent messages from several pieces of software, one of them being a glorified API.

    It would have taken me a good hour to find the relevant data, find the correct places to write reports to, word things in a quasi-professional manner, all for a small chance for any of the developers of something to answer something that is not a variation of "can't help you bro, your logs are anorexic".

    So, after reminiscing the days of writing Windows registry keys and seeing no results (by writing XDP hints all over the system AND rebooting), I took 10 minutes to vent and make a meme - NoScript was intefering with imgflip, otherwise I would have needed 3.

    I could not, in fact, definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took me to make this.

    [–] Rednax 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Odd, that's exactely what my friends tell me when I'm playing BG3 and a bug causes me to get stuck in dialogue (in a Windows 10 VM)

    [–] Voyajer 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Because I'm not installing that thing on bare metal

    [–] nogrub 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Idk whether Proton or natively but no issues at all running it on Pop

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It does, but the Steam DRM bypassing thing that I'm being peer-pressured into using does not

    (not that I'm against buying good games like BG3, it's just that I'm not going to spend 70€ on a game that is just not my type (plus, there's peer pressure going on here))

    [–] FangedWyvern42 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Firedragon is a fork of Librewolf (which is a fork of Firefox), not Firefox. It’s not Firefox at fault.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Case in point

    (although Firefox (the Firefox Firefox) also refused to work)

    [–] paraphrand 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I hate not knowing if my bug report is valid.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Perhaps an invalid opinion, but a bug report that falls outside of scope because of lack of detail or lack of reproduction is still a valid bug report for metrics and general user experience imo. Could lead to interoperability efforts, user experience recommendations, user education utilities, or a bug getting patched but the end result is always the same: a better experience for the end user.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In that case you could maybe see if it works correctly for you in firefox installed via flatpak from flathub. Those are official builds and bug reports on them should go to Mozilla directly.

    It could be related to hyprland though. I think I read somewhere that one of those lightweight WMs (or whatever it really is idk sry lol) doesn't ship a portals config file for x-d-p to exactly know which exact implementation to use. Maybe arch doesn't have that issue though

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    I've read through all the possible bug reports and forum help requests, and used the flatpak Firefox at every point I tried a solution.

    In the end I managed to solve the problem, though I'm sure it'll pop back out at some point.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland

    That's 100% what it is. Changing desktop environments has almost always led to issues in my experience. If you want to use a different DE, make a new user account or reinstall the distro.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    It turned out not to be the problem, I just incidentally changed other stuff while doing it