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[–] griefreeze 60 points 1 year ago

This is what made me switch to Linux full-time. I'm not surprised this is still a thing 10+ years later

[–] polygon6121 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh that's why my Linux instance suddenly stopped working. I will have to look into this

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] polygon6121 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish it could be so, I need both for work. I have always required a laptop with two separate hdd slots, but Windows tends to mess up everything anyway, and then Linux get the blame for being unstable. I also have a fun thing where the RTC becomes out of sync because win and Linux handle time differently. This can mess up 2FA among other things, so that's great😅

I think Windows will have to go on a VM instead because it is so unstable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can set Windows to use UTC for the hardware clock (or have Linux use local time shudder). Just need to set a registry key:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup! Windows did an update and hosed your boot record. I don't even use the same partition for the Windows and Linux boot sectors and Windows still breaks it occasionally. My solution was to just not log into Windows anymore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. I tried the dual boot life for a while but eventually I gave up. On Windows, of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will eventually need to log back into Windows next time I want to design something in Fusion 360, since there aren't any stable solutions for Linux, but that's literally the only thing I need Windows for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I installed it through lutris and it seemed to work fine, but I didn't test for long

[–] 7u5k3n 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was dual booting because of rocket League.
The well epic did an epic and so I stopped. My computer is set to boot to the kubuntu drive. I have to make it boot to windows if I need that drive.

I miss drinking and tanking my MMR with buddies.. but windows. :/ lol

Good to know I'm saving myself a pain in the ass

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can play Rocket League on Linux with proton.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've almost filled a dual boot SSD and I've got an NVME drive sitting there waiting to be installed and I haven't done it yet because I wanted to move just the Linux partitions onto the NVME and leave the windows on the SATA SSD and its just complicated enough and fraught with just enough danger that it's not fun.

For the life of me I've no idea why, I literally can't remember the last time I booted into windows, certainly not since the last shenanigans with fusion 360.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I have in fact never had or seen this problem, and I'm quite bewildered by so many people having it. Do your normal windows updates do it? Or transition between major Windows versions? Or is it just a Win 11 problem?

I've pretty much always used a dual boot Win/Linux laptop, since around Vista, and I'm on 10 now (but only use it for a few games; all important things in Linux).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how it is now, but when I was still dual booting I had the same problem until I got a separate drive for Linux instead of just using different partitions of the same drive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny enough, I think the only time I've run into bootloader problems on a single drive, it ended up being Linux that broke my Windows boot. Typically Windows leaves my EFI partition well enough alone during updates.

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[–] ChewTiger 3 points 1 year ago

I'm rather inexperienced with Linux, so between Windows and I, my computer's bootloader is always messed up. I really need to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've never seen it with EFI. Used to happen with the old MBR disk format & BIOS, but with GPT disks and UEFI it leaves the ESP alone and the EFI picks the bootloader to use from that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usually people have issues with this when they don't create the partition free space for the linux partition inside windows first

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 2 points 1 year ago

Ditto.

I’ve never had this issue either. I’ve had GRUB and other bootloader variants “lose” windows when setting up a dual-boot, but nothing wrecked the actual partition.

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[–] RaoulDook 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Is that Prince Andrew stealing the wheel?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's His Majesty King Charles III, tyvm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

To abolish that silly nonsense, sure

They can just be simple billionaires with too much power over the government instead of the head of state of 15 countries.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No, Charlie is being cheeky again

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the truest meme I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This just happened to me on my laptop like a week ago. I can still Systemd boot into Pop!_Os so I haven't looked into fixing it yet.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Image Transcription: Meme


[An image of King Charles III stealing a wheel from a wheelchair. A person on the wheelchair is angry. They are labeled as such:]

King Charles: Windows Update
Wheel being stolen: UEFI Boot partition
Person on wheelchair: Linux


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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a bit offended by Linux beeing in a wheelchair, implying it can't run, even if one wheel wasn't stolen 😤

Instead, it should be 8 legged and run the web 😉

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I agree. I won't lie: it's a stolen meme too. I'm the worst!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Retrograde 5 points 1 year ago

I don't even use Linux but this meme is hilarious

[–] Treczoks 13 points 1 year ago

High time to get rid of Windows, then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to set up Grub2Win in order for these shenanigans to stop. Never had problems with dual booting again afterwards

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

For others who were interested in this like I was.

Be aware that systems with secure boot enabled are not supported and the author has stated will likely never be supported due to the hassle of getting it signed by a trusted authority.

not a huge issue but, still an annoyance

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Debian is also able to do this after an update, as it disables the os-prober by default. You have to manually re-enable it (prevent it from being disabled).

[–] redeven 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but in that case it isn't nuking the boot files required to boot Windows, it's just clearing the boot entry list and reenabling os-prober and updating grub is enough to fix it. It's like a 1 minute process tops.

Windows is capable of permanently nuking your Linux boot partition, overwriting it entirely and you'd have to boot into a live iso and take several more steps to fix it unless you keep a backup of your boot partition.

[–] shotgun_crab 4 points 1 year ago

This is why I stopped dual-booting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's why you should only have a Linux partition. Most things Windows cam be done with WINE, Proton, or, in absolute necessity, a VM.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have Windows dual booted because I just can't figure these things out. Literally just now spent an hour trying to get Topaz Gigapixel working in Bottles and it just crashes, freezes, or sometimes doesn't launch. Installed vcredist dependencies only to have vague messages of "Failed to Install" Even tried ditching Bottles and just going through Steam and it failed there too. It's better than it was 10 years ago, but I'll have to keep a dual boot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These days with how good KVM is, running Windows in a VM is a pretty good option.

Not that I'm against dual booting, but depending on how many programmes you're actually needing to boot into Windows for it can be a more convenient option.

On the other point, if you're struggling to get things working in Wine/Bottles/etc. when the internet tells you they should work, you could try looking into CrossOver by Codeweavers. It's a paid-for product from the company that does most of the development on Wine and Proton. Not everything can and will work in Wine/etc., but CrossOver has a free trial so it can't hurt to give it a go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be open to a VM, but in the case of Gigapixel it requires access to the GPU, which would disconnect it from the primary, my primary display. Thanks for the heads up on crossover, I'll look into it

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have exactly one program i need and that just won't run in Linux. It's the proprietary scan software that came with my scanner. It lives on a Windows VM and only gets fired up once a week.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i quit dual booting years ago (because of a different issue i didn't want a repeat of). use separate systems and network them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I used to have a dual boot but realized I hadn't used my Windows installation in months and nuked it.

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