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    [–] Crow 132 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    If I want to break my computer I should be able to break my computer!

    [–] darthpenis69 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That's right! By worshipping the almighty penguin he gives us the power to make our expensive computers into useless novelty items.

    [–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Look, if we want to spend 6 hours rebuilding our MBR/GPT, bootsector, and efi partition from scratch, using our grandfather's butterfly, we should be allowed to. Insert angry xkcd here.

    [–] darthpenis69 13 points 2 years ago

    There's always a relevant XKCD, isn't there?

    This reminds me of my favorite (slightly off topic) https://xkcd.com/705/

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Although honestly, these days we could probably do it in about 2 minutes, blindfolded, with our hands tied behind our backs. Damn, the tools have gotten better, haven't they?

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is a fact and a half. Ihave been using linux on and off for a headless Minecraft server. Vanilla Debian. Yesterday I decided to load up the latest Ubuntu lts, to run stable diffusion. My first end user linux install in ages. And it was a 15 minute seamless experience. From boot ISO to running a normal functioning desktop. Add another hoiur and stable diffusion was up and running. A far cry from building slackware from, from source, in the early 2000s. It truly is amazing when we consider what has been achieved.

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    [–] Jeom 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    task managers creator added a function to kill the entire pc. but people reported it as a bug and someone else at Microsoft removed it

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    Dave Plummer is a fricking legend!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    I also use youtube

    [–] dufkm 8 points 2 years ago

    Trying to de-bloat KDE feels like a game of chicken. Whichever K-application I try to uninstall, I get a prompt asking me to confirm if I want to uninstall a plethora of important-sounding kde packages. It gambles on me not knowing which "kde-[...]" packages are vital for KDE Plasma to run, so I don't take the chance on uninstalling the email client, multimedia programs etc.

    [–] ricdeh 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I mean, yes, it might sound a little bit silly, but it is actually simply about the right to make use of the tech you own in the way you see fit, which should be a fundamental freedom AND right. It's the Windows users that look ridiculous from any sane perspective, though I try not to judge people based on their choice of OS lol

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    [–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Let's be honest. If you haven't broken your bootloader at some point in time, you haven't experienced Linux.

    [–] darthpenis69 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I've broken my bootloader many times. I remember frantically looking up how to fix that online for the first time. Now I know not to do stupid things that could bork my bootloader.

    [–] hyperhopper 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I know not to do stupid things that could bork my bootloader. I still do stupid things that I know can bork my bootloader.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    This is the way.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

    Windows probably broke my bootloader (GRUB) more times than I did though.

    [–] PennyJim 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As a Linux noob, the only time I've broken my bootloader was updating my distro after ignoring it for a year. I ignored the update because it broke a badly made script badly solving the complex problem caused by a simple problem that I ignored the solution to.

    I finally fixed the simple problem because I needed to upgrade a library to get a modded launcher working so I could play with my friends. And I was thinking of rewriting the firmware for my macro keyboard to be better structured anyways.

    I went back to the old firmware with a simple fix as the new one has a weird bug that if I hold two "even" keys at once, I get spammed down signals for the higher order one.

    Linux has been fun!

    [–] PennyJim 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I started writing that, got a little carried away, then decided even if no one cares, talking into the void has always been cathartic

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    Hi, the void here.
    I care, and it sounds like you did have a real proper Linux experience. Good for you. =)

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean if you know how to write firmware you don't really count as a Linux noob, regardless of your lack of experience with linux

    [–] PennyJim 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Does writing Arduino code really discount me from being a Linux noob? I still think I need to learn python to implement my macros rather then rely on GOME keybinds and bash scripts.

    I also need to learn how to make a GNOME theme. I just want the default but with a different accent color. I used to use an extension, but it's out of date and doesn't convince pop-os to be in dark mode.

    Damn... Every time I start talking about my experience I just start rambling about barely connected things.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

    To me, noob implies not only lack of experience but also lack of skill, so yeah in that sense I would say it does discount you somewhat ^^

    Do learn python, you'll pick it up super easily and will be amazed by the simplicity of the syntax (but perhaps also slightly grossed out by the duck typing and use of whitespace as syntax)

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I feel like it’s harder to break the bootloader these days. All my dual-booting escapades worked fine, I still have most of my hair, and there’s no way my Linux skills have improved that much.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I think that the major issue with the bootloader is when a user confuses the device file for the entire drive (/dev/sda) with the device file for the partition (/dev/sda1), whch is not entirely unreasonable for a new user who doesn't understand the naming system to do. Like, mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda rather than mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1. Then you overwrite the entire drive, starting with the MBR, rather than the contents of a partition with your new filesystem.

    [–] LunaLeTuna 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    thats why you gotta stock up on boot loaders, can never have enough boot loaders, if one breaks I just boot off another one!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

    I broke my boot loader last weekend trying to enable hibernation. It worked, but was flaky, so I decided to undo everything, but when I tried to run upgrade-grub to apply the changes, it stalled. No matter what I tried, I couldn't make it to run, and booting without upgrading grub was out of the question.

    Fortunately, since the only change was related to hibernation, shutting down instead of hibernating let me reboot using the old boot loader, and after that the update-grub worked well.

    Having broken the boot loader several times before taught me that you can sometimes boot a broken boot loader in the right conditions.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    The only thing I fucked up was /etc/sudoers. Once it refused sudo to me, my colleague told me about visudo and having another terminal with root already open as backup. And handed me a bootable USB stick to fix my fuckup. Good times, lessons were learned.

    [–] GatoB 2 points 2 years ago

    How did you break it?

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    [–] molochthagod 28 points 2 years ago

    This meme is such a good representation of the general difference between the two systems.

    [–] Elliott 19 points 2 years ago

    I'm amazed Windows is allowed to pull some of it's shit, but the US doesn't seem real keen on anti monopoly anything anymore.

    [–] Seven 16 points 2 years ago

    THAT'S A REAL THING LOL

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

    I was once asked how I know so much about computers. I told them I broke it enough times and had to fix it before my dad came home.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is quickly just becoming r/linuxcirclejerk

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

    As everything should be...

    [–] GustavoM 4 points 2 years ago
    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    This kind of thing is a huge part of why I fell in love with Linux so long ago.

    [–] adinfinitum 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Customizing your system to the point that no one else can use it?

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    lol, no. Being able to do what I want with it is what I have appreciated. It's like having a computer without that obnoxious glue in the screws so you can take it apart if you want to.

    [–] adinfinitum 7 points 2 years ago

    I've done some weird stuff like making the volume wheel on the keyboard scroll or perform other functions, and it came in pretty handy in text editors or browsers, but less handy when you want to turn the volume down. Any time you have some weird idea like that, there's usually a pretty feasible way to make it work.

    [–] worker9 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You really can't uninstall edge in Windows? I knew that was a thing with IE back in the day.

    [–] darthpenis69 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You can uninstall the newest version of edge in Windows. The newer edge is chromium based and it seems you can remove it now. However the previous version of edge that was built into windows could not be removed with traditional methods.

    [–] rcmaehl 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You can't uninstall edge without breaking things such as start menu search, widgets, bing AI, The upcoming co-pilot, and a lot more. I've personally been battling for people by creating MSEdgeRedirect, but there's been two to three attempts to break the project so far.

    [–] darthpenis69 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I should have mentioned I was talking specifically about Windows 10 LTSC version. I have that on one machine only for my fiancée to use, I was definitely able to uninstall edge on that so that Firefox would be the only option.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

    /🤓 mode on

    it's not a bootloader response tho, it's when init couldn't be initialized

    /🤓 mode off

    [–] BenchwarmerXP 12 points 2 years ago

    Everytime I edge auto opens on a new PC, I get a little bit sadder

    [–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin 11 points 2 years ago

    I'll never forget that beautiful moment when i uninstalled python using the terminal

    [–] Kuinox 9 points 2 years ago

    Well you can still uninstall edge on windows, even if it break your system, you can do it. There are tons of guides you can find on internet. It’s basically running the installer with an uninstall flag.

    [–] kremdostup 8 points 2 years ago

    hey i got that message after failing to set up UKI booting on my Arch install 🥲

    [–] EmperorOfTexas 5 points 2 years ago

    The other day, I realized that Apple had done things to their version of rm that made an old script I had on my work machine fail. Apparently, they stuck in something that would just reject certain versions of rm that are known to be problematic.

    It's not that you can't do it, it's that you have to use wildcards now.

    [–] Infinitenonblondes 3 points 2 years ago

    I don’t know which asshole decided Edge should be part of M365 for Mac and if you uninstall it it reinstalls 15 minutes later but when I find out they’re getting a full jug of used Go Lytly in their shoes.

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