Title : piracy

[–] [email protected] 102 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's not

It's piracy, a different crime

A crime I love committing babyyyyyyyyyy

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago

We here at Futurama do not condone the cool crime of burglary.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, when you steal something from someone then he does not have it anymore. With indefinitely replicable virtual goods that is not the case.

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[–] art 83 points 10 months ago (14 children)

If I steal your bicycle
you have to take the bus,
but if I just copy it
there's one for each of us!

[–] Willer 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

im a bicycle store owner and this is so true

[–] Kase 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like to think this implies that people are coming into your store and cloning the bicycles

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You wouldn't download a bicycle would you?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I absolutely would.

Call me Missingno. Cuz I would have 99 of them shits

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If I steal food from the store, I'm both robbing the store, and a community that would have paid good money for that food.

If I go to the store and magically have the items on the shelves be duplicated into my cart, and I don't have to pay for them. That is not a crime that is a miracle

[–] Sheeple 29 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Consider this. (big chain) Stores already steal from the community via profits they make.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 20 points 10 months ago

And while we’re on about food, look at how much the grocery stores toss out.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

"Property is theft!" ~ EA

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

'I wonder who this ship belongs to anyway,' said Arthur.

'Me,' said Zaphod.

'No. Who it really belongs to.'

'Really me,' insisted Zaphod. 'Look, property is theft, right? Therefore theft is property. Therefore this ship is mine, okay?'

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[–] Thteven 20 points 10 months ago

"Fuck EA" ~ Me

[–] lugal 10 points 10 months ago

If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder!, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to remove a man's mind, will, and personality, is the power of life and death, and that it makes a man a slave. It is murder. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery!, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, What Is Property?

[–] creditCrazy 44 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Also if buying isn't owning than wtf did I buy. In any other time period this corporate shit would be considered a scam.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Also if buying isn't owning than wtf did I buy.

"Access." It is such a scam.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

You didn't buy anything, we rent now...

Landlords everywhere, even on the internet... It's disgusting. They get to own, we get to borrow...

So to OP, it's still stealing as they own everything, we just rent. Fucking scam for sure :(

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

"YoU BoUgHt a lIcEnSe tO UsE ThE PrOdUcT"

Funny how the word license never comes up until you read the fine print. Colloquially you're buying the product. If we're going by legal technicalities then legally I ain't stealing shit.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's the theft of profit they don't like, they don't care if you watch it, just that you give them money for the opportunity to watch.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, they still don't like it when I buy a copy of a video game and then pirate it as well

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

yup. anti-piracy is about control, not profits. this is trivial to deduce from the simple fact that no one ever measures a drm solution's performance in total sales recovered, they only ever whine about hypothetical lost ones, which is the corporate equivalent of sideways for attention, long way for effect

[–] xenoclast 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I think you mean "extract value"

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Taking a copy of an infinitely replicable resource is perfectly ethical.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In a world where people’s lives are sustained by a model that diminishes their income when copying instead of buying, you can’t exactly call it “perfectly ethical”.

You can make an argument that your copying isn’t preventing a sale and that probably works most of the time, but not all the time.

I think “it’s complicated” is a more true statement of the conundrum.

[–] cmhe 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The issue is that there exists some sort of digital Bourgeoisie, people that just make their money by owning digital data, while the digital proletariat, the artists and programmers, that creates the data aren't well financially compensated or might not even be employed at the company anymore.

Pirates should be mindful who they are hurting, and that depends on the piece of work they are pirating, the time when they are doing it and many other circumstances. That decides if is ethical or not.

Creators should be well compensated for their time and effort, so that they continue to create and if that is the case piracy doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Self published indie game that you really like? Pay for it, support the creator(s)

Music written/recorded by long dead people whose rights are owned by some massive faceless corporation to line the pockets of CEOs and shareholders? Fuck them, pirate away

Future generations will cringe at how much creative innovation has been stifled by our repressive copyright laws, extending it past 20 years flat was a major mistake

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (13 children)

God damn right!

....I mean... PIRACY IS WRONG AND IMORRAL!

stealing from billionaires is bad! How are they supposed to afford their giant mansions and gold Hummers if we pirate things?!

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[–] TropicalDingdong 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Idk if it's just me but that image isn't showing.

[–] sebinspace 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it’s webm and that shit can blow me.

[–] troglodytis 10 points 10 months ago

WeBM.

Yes, yes. Everybody Poops.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

In case you or anyone else is curious, it's a reaction gif of Will Ferrell as Ron Burgundy from Anchorman saying, "I can't argue with any of those points."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

It's just a reaction gif (in webm format, which is probably why it's not showing for us)