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[–] [email protected] 149 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Baby was immediately taken to a state if the art NICU and had a whole team of specialists. Still has a 0.5 chance of not having brain damage when she grows up.

This is an absolutely amazing thing. But the tweet makes it seem. Like he just st with the baby and rubbed her chest. Not that she was being treated with the best equipment and by the best people.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And as you said: it's pretty likely that children like this have developmental and/or behavioral issues.

This life-at-any-cost approach might be understandable for the individual parent/relative, but it's not exactly the best approach if you're a bit more detached and less emotional.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Considering the baby is probably in her 20s by now, probably less equipment then, but you make a good point.

It's also a little like people giving God the credit when it's Humans and Science and Medical Intervention that performed the miracle.

[–] irish_link 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For the Americans who don't understand the severity. 450 grams is less than 1 pound.

[–] Agent641 6 points 11 months ago

Hardly even a meal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How much is a baby unlikely to survive? I looked up as you did thr conversion of grams to pounds and then looked up normal newborn weight... and it says less than 5 pounds is unhealthy, but not so fatal but won't say how much is 50 50 of survival? And how much is a 99 percent chance? But I can wager a guess that less than a pound when 5 and a half pounds is dangerous must be... incredible.

[–] bighatchester 1 points 11 months ago

My son was born at just over a pound and from the start they said his chances where very good and will just need time to grow in the NICU . From what I was told under a pound there is much more risk .

[–] Elivey 8 points 11 months ago

I had someone come into one of my classes who worked in an NICU come in to talk about it and showed us a picture of the usual state of the room for a baby like this.

Imagine this but 10 times more machines and wires. The picture she showed was just a sea.

[–] exhaust_fan 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doctors gave my parents a choice to let my neonatal sibling die naturally. I grew up with them, loved them, and never wanted anything but the best life for them and my family.

If a doctor gives you a choice you should take it. It isn't a happy life for them, the people they should care about, or broader society.

[–] irish_link 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can only imagine how hard this may be to talk about.

I ask this question to get clarification and not make you relive a hardship in any way. So please just respond with "no thanks" if its to hard to give more details or just ignore completely.

Your comment was a little confusing to me. Can you expand on it a little so I can understand. Was your comment that it was not a happy life meant that its not a perfect life for those who are born in that situation but they find true joy and bring light to those around then from your experience? Or more give them a shot and they will show you how far they can go because they are determined to show you what the hell they are made of.

I ask this not as an outsider but as a friend who has seen a few extremes in this real including my cousin.

[–] exhaust_fan 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's fine, ask away. It's important people think through long term implications so I'm happy to answer.

Such babies stand very low chances of living healthy normal lives. In my sibling's case they didn't live a happy or comfortable life, they precldued my other siblings and I from valuable childhood experiences, strained my parents' marriage, and were a huge burden on taxpayers and society. There were some good moments but truthfully they never brought anyone any real happiness and no one ever honestly wanted them to be around.

It's natural to want to cling on to those you love hoping the best for them, especially for mothers. My strong opinion is all things considered the kindest thing for everyone's long term wellbeing is to be strong and let them go.

[–] datelmd5sum 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps the consultant was wrong if she was only a 6yo?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Hold my ballet slippers, I'm going in!

[–] homesweethomeMrL 14 points 11 months ago

Oooollllllld meme

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is 8 the optimal number of legs for so many species? What makes 8 better than 6 eh octopus spiders?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Things mutating to double is easier. So you get 2-4-8 etc, and then specialization after.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well who took my 6th digit?!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's on your other hand, next to the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th. If that is missing you should ask the bigger questions (like who took my hand).