I really, really wish people would stop calling carts vaping, or that we had a new term for dry herb vape.
Pretty tired of hearing accusations at dry herb vapes when they’re just uneducated and referring to carts
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2023
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I hope I did not offend. At the moment i am using carts, but at some point i do plan on getting a dry herb vape too. It would seem to me that dry herb would not allow you to control your dose as well as a cart. The dry herb vape i have seen (planet of the vapes one) turns on and uses the whole chamber in like 3 minutes which would be to much for me at the moment. Where a cart auto draw pen lets you control it better.
Don't listen to that guy. In 25+ years I've never heard anyone refer to dry herb vaping as anything other than dry herb vaping and with the popularity of e-cigarettes, I've never heard of anyone refer to carts as anything but vaping (or carts).
I was referring to another comment, use carts at will im just saying it causes confusion
As for dry herb vapes, just put less herb in. There’s no rule that you have to fill it all the way. You can also mix in other less potent herbs
Ah, i have heard you cant pack a bong to loosly but good to know that you can with dry herb vapes. Can you just turn it off before it toasts everything or does it waste herb while cooling down? Because if you can turn it off that would work too.
You can turn it off, and with the planet if the vapes 1, you can also get something called dosing capsules. They make it so you can fill the capsule with your herb, put the cap on it, and drop it into the one to vape. Keeps it cleaner and if you turn it off early you can take the cap out to use again later.
That seems like a good choice. Thanks for the information. I take dosages seriously.
Vaping is cheaper and more potent.
I have a few carts I use sparingly because they seem to be rougher on my throat than dry herb vaping.
But the best middle ground by far is dry herb vaping. It is very cost friendly, customizable in terms of effects, and probably "safer" than vaping. This is my primary method of consumption.
How do you control your dose dry herb vaping? With an auto draw vape cart i can just stop whenever i am ready, but the one dry herb vape (planet of the vapes one) i looked at vaporizes whatever is put in the chamber and you get like 180 seconds before its all used up. I am not yet to the point where i am comfortable using a dose that high.
Edit: the flower i am looking at is 20%-32% so if i measured out say 250mg for the chamber thats a 50-80mg dose and i am not to that point yet
Am I missing something or is the solution just to only put in the amount you want to consume? 🤔
This may only apply to bongs, but from my understanding you can't pack it too loosely, or not enough, because it won't work right.
I'm not sure what device you are looking at, but that is definitely not the case with the Volcano. I can out as much or as little in the basket as I want.
I am looking at the planet of the vapes one.
Wait, you mean the Planet of the Vapes ONE? Is this ambiguous capitalization? At any rate, I've usually found that dry herb vapes don't want to be packed too full and will struggle with too much material.
Thats the one.
So that's what I use and I just pack it to a loose fill I don't stuff it.
I just use the .1 gram capsules, but my other vape is .2 grams.
And it's not all used up after the first session. I usually start with only 3 or 4 hits and do that every 20 minutes or so. Depending on what I'm vaping it'll last for an hour or 2, maybe a cap change in between.
If we are going to talk about cost efficiency, honestly the cheapest way to go about this is growing your own. I'm not the best grower, but my bud is decent and gets the job done. Spent 100 dollars on seed in March and and currently curing about 6 ounces right now
Fair point. How are you doing it? I dont really have anywhere suitable for growing any.
Indoor is not hard, you can pull 1 oz out of a 40x40 space or a spacebucket (the latter can be built for about 50$). A 60x60 tent can net me around 4oz every 3 months or so, although I grow 1 auto at a time for about 1-2 oz at a time, this is enough for me and the wife.
As for your calculations, my anecdotal experience is thus: 1g is up to 6 smokes for me, 5 g gets me 32 doses of edibles but the high is a bit more potent and lasts longer.
Yeah, thats 166mg per smoke and way to high for me. I am using a cart and 2 hits gets me where i want (im new) and that is 8-12mg. I need my tolerance to go up before doing much more. Made that mistake once and was convinced for hours my house was burning down. That was a bad night and i dont care for a repeat.
The math is off, you assume everything is a 1:1. Smokes only about 20% efficient in a flower that is 20-30% thc so cut that 166 down to about 10mg.
Okay, that's the kind of information I needed to know. So, it's 166mg flower weight which with 30% thc would give 49.8mg and if only 20% of that gets to you that is 9.96mg for you? And so my 2 hits of the cart at 8-12mg is equal to rolling a joint of ~200mg flower?
Yes, that would potentially be a rough close to life conversion. Keep in mind that 30% is some real top shelf bud, which will cost you a pretty penny in a dispensary and even for homegrow it is a hard sell, 15-25 is more realistic. I don’t have legal weed so I have no clue how the real life comparison for carts is. For edibles you are looking at a 70-80% extraction of thc. Wax and other extracts as well as hash can be pushing 90+. Vaping dry bud ive seen quotes 50-70% range.
What i am looking at is THCa flower ounces for $150 with 20-32% and a COA.
COAs can be sketchy, from grow forums I gather a lot of places will issue fake numbers for the right price.
I also saw you mention you were worried about dry herb dosing, have a look at Dynavap. It is more finnicky than electric ones but the chamber is small and on some models you can even reduce the chamber to half. The new armored cap is pretty begginer friendly.
A inhaled buzz lasts about 1.5 hours while an edible lasts 6, so 4x as long. Math winds up being very close when accounting for length too.
Edibles are only expensive if you're buying them pre-made. Buy distillate and make brownies and it's significantly cheaper plus you can control your dosage. Edible highs also last a lot longer anyway.
Alternatively just move to Oregon and the shits so cheap here that it doesn't even matter lmfao. I ain't a heavy smoker but $30 gets you a whole ounce if you know where the good deals are and that'll last me like 3 months lol
If you want to lower your cost even more, grow your own and buy a heat press to make your own live rosin. No solvents and the terpene profile is preserved.
Now for the hard part: vaping is still bad for you. Most people rip on their dabs like they are smoking flower, looking for big clouds, which is a big no-no. I personally take small pulls with extra air so it isn't so concentrated on each hit. I'd rather not prematurely give myself COPD.
Yeah, i am not after big clouds so my hits are not big ones.
So here's what I did this year and it worked out pretty good. Note i live in us so if you live elsewere this may not b an option. I got a pound of cheap legal hemp flower from an online wholesaler for 400$ and use it as filler flower in between the good stuff of to occasionally mix it in to make good stuff last longer. Its lasted me 6 months got it beginning of summer and on the final maybe 10g. I am a heavy smoker.
Then I got my first dry herb vape. Dry herb vapes are definitely the most cost effective way to smoke, the smokes a lot cleaner, taste a lot better, and sessions last a lot longer. Its nice to be able to dial in on your preferred temp range. But nothing is quite like a hard combustion hit. Sometimes I indulge a good bong hit still even if its not the most cost effective .