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"Today we are sending a clear signal to young people that there are consequences for misusing drugs. Both users and dealers will face the full force of the law for their actions,"
Criminalising the users has worked so well with other drugs, hasn't it? The war on drugs will be won any second now...
drugs have already won. this is just a rearguard action before more sensible policy comes in. the UK is far behind on decriminalisation.
There's already evidence in the UK that a progressive approach works, but it has been forgotten about. Middlesbrough police trialled a scheme where they provided heroin users with their fix. All of a sudden, the users stopped committing offences to raise money for their habit, which in turn deprived dealers of a lucrative source of income.
It's not been forgotten about it's been buried. They were not happy when they were advise to reclassify marijuana as a class C. That's where we got the famous line "the public are tired of experts" from.
Ah the vitaminB12 problem, which is far worse than the liver cirrhosis in alcoholics, and you know, lung cancer...
I've never even had a go on Nitrous, but what a bullshit excuse.
I had nitrous when I had my wisdom teeth out, shit was tight.
I was hesitant to buy into the whole nitrous thing when getting dental work done. What's a little discomfort? I can take it. But holy fucking shit does it make a difference for the better. Especially for something like a cleaning; I'm calmer, more relaxed, and even though I can still feel what they are doing in there I just don't care as much. It feels like a zero calorie beer for breakfast. And paired with actual numbing agents during a more involved procedure, it helps them as much as me. It's like a hypnosis drug. I just focus on breathing through my nose and follow their instructions without any stress and the drunken feeling passes before I even leave the chair so I can go on with my day.
Moreover, I can't exactly make whipped cream with carbon dioxide. Are they going to outlaw Guinness in a can with the nitrous widget next?
I've never made whipped cream using any compressed gas. Is it a preference thing for whipped cream made using gas?
It tastes a bit sweeter and looks better, really. You can also use the charger to froth cold soups or to make foamy suspensions.
It’s a better alternative to prepackaged whipped cream, in my mind. It also doesn’t contain sweeteners (unless you put them in, of course) which is a benefit.
I have a reusable canister that takes nitrous charges. Dump 16oz of heavy cream, simple syrup, and flavor into a chilled canister; seal, charge, and shake. Now you have easy to dispense whipped cream. Nitrogen gas adds a bit of sweetness to food (like Guiness or nitro iced coffee), whereas carbon dioxide adds a bit of bite (like in most sodas).
When I had some teeth out they injected something into my gums to numb it and it was fucking horrible. Next time I went they got the syringe out and I just told them I'd rather feel the pain than go through that again.
Novocaine. But if you're having surgery you definitely want it. It's not exactly pleasant having someone stab you in the gum with a with a needle but it's even less pleasant to have someone pull one of your teeth out with a pair of pliers.
I think I was having a tooth drilled for a filling. It hurt but it was definitely bearable.
I preferred going through the pain compared to a needle in the gum and an hour of numb-faced dribbling.
Of course it's preferable sometimes, but I really hate it.
I had nitrous one time about 10 years ago. Friends of a friend had one of those devices where you could pinch the container and the gas would flow into a Ballon on the other end.
Just exchanged the air in my lungs with the gas in the Ballon until I kind of passed out for a second, followed by a wave of euphoria and laughter.
Was fun, but not something I would do again, even without the included health risks.
Is B12 the main risk with nitrous?
I suppose the wealthy aren't doing it, so why not tread on those dirty poors a bit harder - it can't be a health issue if we make it a criminal one, eh gents?
nitrous inhibits b12 production, so if you use a shitton in one sitting then take a few weeks break youll be fine just supplement b12
but if u use a little bit periodically over a couple days that could start to degrade your nerves permanently due to lack of b12.
but you cant produce less than zero and any nitrous puts you at zero so if youre gonna use it do big one night binges then take a month off and supplement b12 for a bit. in this case its theoretically pretty harmless.
edit b12 coats and protects ur nerves or smth
This won't stop people though, just criminalise them.
the goal is to make us all a little bit criminal.
Well that's that solved then. I'll expect to see no more little cylinders left by all the local cream chefs we have around here.
What a good job the Tories are looking out for us with all those extra police needed to enforce the new rules.
A new The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry study puts forth an intriguing theory about the use of “laughing gas” to treat people with severe, treatment-resistant depression who experience suicidal thoughts.
https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/the-weekly-mind-reader-laughing-gas-for-suicide-prevention/
So if I were living in the UK, I’d be a criminal, got it.
But on a more serious note, how am I supposed to whip cream now? I understand banning it as a drug, but what about the main purpose of nitrous?
@DaDragon before there was nitrous sold for whipping cream, there was this thing called an egg beater.
Does the same job without producing so much waste.
I actually had no idea people made whipped cream using a method other than whipping it with a whisk (manually or motorized).
It’s nicer, for when you have guests over, for example. You could always pipe the cream, I guess, but that’s even more work
Nitrous whipped cream is sweeter, but apart from that and presentation, you’re correct.
@DaDragon I never whip cream plain, I always add a tsp powdered sugar and vanilla essence. Tastes way better.
Use nitrogen or carbon dioxide, I guess? No idea how those will perform.
Carbon dioxide would produce curdled cream, that much I know.
Looks like it’s only a half-ban, really.
For example, someone buying a single canister on a weekday alongside other household and baking goods differs to young people buying a number of nitrous oxide canisters on a weekend.
Which I find funny because I do have a large stock of nitrous cartridges, and am a young person.
so they just want the law to say they can incarcerate people if they feel like it?
that is the purpose of a great many laws
Ice cream vendors are gonna make mint off this.
Why can't they make the other flavours?
The dealers and users don't help themselves with discarding the canisters all over the street.
Society doesn't help itself by failing to provide non-street spaces for users.
You mean like the houses where they live?
Nitrous is only ever used by kids who reckon they're in gangs anyway. It's hardly a hardcore drug. They all actually do have some place to go they just prefer to hang around on the streets being annoying.
Nitrous is only ever used by kids who reckon they're in gangs anyway.
Completely false and very presumptuous.
You mean like the houses where they live?
Teenagers usually don't have houses of their own. Usually they live with their parents and don't want to get high around their parents.
They all actually do have some place to go
Where? Where could teenagers take nitrous oxide together and without their parents? As far as I know, society provides no such spaces.
Nitrous oxide, just say no, and do cooler drugs instead.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Under the new rules, those found in unlawful possession of the drug could now face a prison sentence or unlimited fine, with up to 14 years for supply or production.
Toughening the law could have "significant unintended consequences" the Advisory Council on The Misuse of Drugs said, including users not seeking medical help.
One brand, Smartwhip, used legitimately to aerate cream and sauces in restaurants, is being sold surreptitiously to addicts in corner shops.
Intensive, frequent use of laughing gas can lead to vitamin B12 deficiency which can cause neurological damage, scientific studies suggest.
Announcing the ban, Crime and Policing Minister Chris Philp said nitrous oxide abuse was dangerous to people's health.
Drugs Map of Britain - How a local community in Birmingham has been impacted by nitrous oxide, told through the users, the shops that sell it and the activist trying to stop it.
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