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[–] BromSwolligans 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zillow, who had aBsOLuTeLy NoTHiNg tO Do WiTh ThEsE pRiCeS now has some thoughts on it huh

[–] EmpathicVagrant 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it’s always wild when we get comments like this. It’s like interviewing a serial killer about the uncontrollable violence people feel over [insert their MO]

[–] kemsat 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Break even? That’s not even a concern. I just wanna have a place to live where I don’t have neighbors on the other side of the wall.

[–] BertramDitore 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is legitimately something I fantasize about. All I want is a small standalone structure to myself, nothing too big or fancy. I’m so damn sick of being held hostage by my neighbors ridiculously odd sleep schedule and lack of basic human decency.

Even though I’m single with a decent job, it’s never gonna happen. But I can dream. Well actually I can’t dream, because my neighbors don’t let me stay asleep long enough to reach a REM state.

[–] kemsat 3 points 1 year ago

A single tiny home on a small property would be amazing at this point.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's that Zillow? Buying real estate isn't profitable? Does that mean you're going to diversify? Maybe sell some of your property?

Didn't think so.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zillow hasn't bought homes in over a year after over leveraging by a few billion. Focus your attention where it's due, on all the institutionally funded SFR companies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nah. They deserve as much negative attention as black rock.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buying it isn't profitable, holding large masses of it though, it's literally impossible to lose money, and if you do the government will do things like push employees back into overpriced office buildings to continue to justify the price.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just holding isn't that valuable. Most real estate doesn't outpace inflation. If you get to live there for basically free or collect rent it's a good deal.

[–] iopq -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If prices are going up, then it's going to be less than 13.5 years because the value of the house will grow on the meantime and you will own more than you owe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The question is, will prices continue to go up? Or will rates push prices down? What impact will that have on rents?

Hopefully all of that is included in this estimate. I expect housing prices to cool as rates go up, which means a longer time for the initial investment to pay back for itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There wouldn't even be a payback period at all if they weren't calculating for anticipated value growth.

[–] iopq 1 points 1 year ago

That's not true, you eventually win due to not paying rent in perpetuity

[–] Dkarma 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah the 13.5 accounts for a continued increase in home prices. If it didn't it would be more than that.

[–] iopq 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's surprising, then

But then again, I would not be surprised if the rates fell in the future, so if your mortgage is a few years locked in rates and then goes floating this may be still fine

I'm talking more likely 7 years in the future, not like one or two, though