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[-] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago

I'm not really sure why Russian popular opinion is relevant in this case.

Also, "Surveying public opinion in Russia is complicated, with the Kremlin's war propaganda and fierce repression of anti-war sentiment obscuring the real picture."

[-] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I feel like any kind of poll that comes out of Russia right now is kinda meaningless.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

On top of that, what do you think russians will answer when the "moscow-based levada center" asks them if they would not support Putin if X happens...

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah no shit is it "complicated". The question is mostly if you want to support the war in a vague and indirect sense, or if you prefer supporting the war directly from a penal battalion.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It will be noticeable when they change their minds

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think “noticeable” would be an understatement! 🔥

[-] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

Sounds like the Russian population isn't feeling the consequences of the war enough...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

6% Inflation isn't a lot of pain. Germany had the same in July/August.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Ok, but there's a reason the article leads with the 15% interest rate (Germany is at 4.5%)

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

That doesn't really affect people though.

30% or 50% inflation would. Rationing would. Power outages would. Having to go to air raid shelters every night would.

None of that is happening. The losses are downplayed, hidden, and the people sent to war are usually from regions or population groups with little influence. No wonder the population supports the war.

The government also isn't losing anything important: they don't care about the people, the weapon systems being lost are outdated scrap, and neither the luxuries of the elites nor the manufacturing and infrastructure inside Russia are being hit. Why would they stop?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It does effect some people (I.e. People with variable rate mortgages)

But yeah, overall sanctions are completely insufficient. Partly because they are incomplete, partly because Russia is a massive country able to supply almost all of her own necessities.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

China. Eventually the russian losses will present too tempting a target to China, which is already seeking deeper ties with the -stan countries. Also, China still wants Vladivostok back.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

@abbadon420 @SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT yeah but thats the fault of the evil West. They are bullying the poor Rodina for trying to save the world. Fortunatley they can continue pumping oil and gas to continue their world saving holy war of love and mercy.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

This doesn’t matter in a non-democratic country.

[-] RageAgainstTheRich 21 points 6 months ago

But... why? They don't even live there and most likely will never even visit. Nationalists are so dumb...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Feeling strong and important. Something that is apparently especially important when you are neither.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Also, most Ukrainians against ending Russian war if captured land not returned. Thus, the killing continues.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m against it, too. I’m definitely not happy about it, but I think the only thing worse than the war continuing would be to give up and reward Putin for his war crimes. He must not be allowed to keep any Ukrainian territory, including Crimea.

If there was a solution that didn’t involve further bloodshed, then great, but that doesn’t seem possible right now.

[-] fne8w2ah 10 points 6 months ago

The russkie serfs ain't gonna feel anything as long as they are perpetually brainwashed.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Eye-opening article why the many dead sons haven't resulted in outrage: https://russiapost.info/regions/majority

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That really was eye-opening, thank you!

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