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[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Like, I get wanting to defend the rights of women under oppressive religions and governments, but how exactly does controlling what women are allowed to wear accomplish that?

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[–] BlackNo1 79 points 8 months ago

im not the biggest fan of the muslim faith but this is stupid

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Austria also has a law like that, and it has been a complete shitshow. There have been fines for someone wearing a scarf while riding a bike and for someone at work dressed up in a body suit in front of the shop for advertisement reasons (like a mascot).

When the law went into effect, the newspapers reported that there were about ten muslim women currently wearing coverings in the whole country.

[–] Linkerbaan 15 points 8 months ago

After years of covid where everyone would supposedly die in terror attacks if the face coverings happened I'm surprised this fear mongering still manages to pass.

Full face covering burqas are not really an Islamic thing. The headscarves are. The burqas are a cultural thing for some. And usually almost nobody actually wears them. But you can get brownie points with the racists for passing these laws and show that your country is well on the way to moral decline.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gotta make sure you don't compromise that facial recognition

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Apparently measuring a person's natural walking gait is far more effective at identifying people. Who knew Monty Python had it right, so long ago.

[–] quaddo 7 points 8 months ago

Put a pebble in my shoe, gottit.

[insert goofy stone-in-shoe scene from White House Plumbers]

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

YES!

It's important how much clothing you wear. Not too much and not too little. It MUST BE the RIGHT amount.

Humans.

[–] spez_ 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Personally we need to ban underwear and socks

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I hate this. What if I wanna cover my face to evade facial detection? That's illegal now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

no dont worry, its only the brown people face coverings that are bad

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Nope, wear a surgical mask.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

What if I'm cold or want to go skiing? I could wrap a scarf over my face which I have done. Is that not illegal because it's not the same garment?

What about COVID? Wouldn't masks conflict with that also? Of all countries I'd never imagine one with a colder climate to make such a law.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There are exceptions for sport and health&safety. You can do all of these things.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Not sure where you're getting your masks from but mine sure aren't covering my whole face.

Can see the argument for skiing masks and shit though

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can understand the reasoning for government officials and kids at school, but what are they smoking to straight up ban it in their country?

[–] electrogamerman 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The same thing islamist countries are smoking when they kill women not covering their head, probably.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)

i am glad that we are fighting these terrible regimes that enforce what women can and cannot wear by letting the regime enforce what women can and cannot wear

high five gang

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

These do seem inconsistant. What about 95 masks? that covers the face and nose.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

But not the eyes. Besides it's easy to include an exception for legitimate medical purposes - even considering the law was written by a bunch of quasi-fascists I would be surprised if that's not covered in the law, especially since the article mentions there are exceptions.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] electrogamerman 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if all the Muslims here saying "women should be dressing whatever they want", also protest the same in muslims countries where women are killed for not covering their hair.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Are you living under a rock? Haven't you seen the men protesting in Iran??

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[–] bigFab 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What's the official reason for that law?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (11 children)

The official reason is "in our culture we show each other our faces"

The real reason is "I'm racist and I hate muslims"

Source: am swiss. (I voted against this law.)

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[–] UltraMagnus0001 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

wear a face mask all the time then... cough cough COVID

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yea how can you ban face coverings in the covid times lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I'd rather see swiss banks having to spill the beans about their many criminal enterprises and criminal customers. Tax evasion is a crime, for those unaware

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

A country telling women what to wear will be on the same page in my book as the country telling women what not to wear.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Winter is gonna be fun, lol. Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.

The article says there are exceptions, but doesn't provide any useful information unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Don't worry. Its only for brown people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Winter is gonna be fun, lol.

They'll have a list of exceptions that basically means anyone but muslims.

Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.

It's still in force.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


GENEVA (AP) β€” The lower house of Switzerland’s parliament voted Wednesday to give final legislative passage to a ban on face coverings, such as the burqas worn by some Muslim women.

It was pushed through by the right-wing, populist Swiss People’s Party, easily overcoming reticence expressed by centrists and the Greens.

The move follows a nationwide referendum two years ago in whch Swiss voters narrowly approved forbidding niqabs, which leave slits for the eyes, and burqas as well as ski masks and bandannas that are worn by some protesters.

With the lower house vote, parliament cemented the ban into federal law and set a fine of up to 1,000 francs (about $1,100) for violators.

Few women in Switzerland wear full face coverings like burqas, which are perhaps best known as garb worn in Afghanistan.

The national legislation will put Switzerland in line with countries such as Belgium and France that have enacted similar measures.


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

If female sexual agency is somehow shameful, while male sexual agency isn't, then this needs to be argued for with good reasons.

I myself reject any form of double standards.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Just in time for Halloween!

(Probably not a big thing in CHE)

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