Incels are not stigmatized for their sexual histories. People don't like them because their whole worldview is shite and pathetic.
this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
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This part caught me too. There's always a giveaway where the logic breaks down. No one cares about incels sex history...they can't get to that point cuz incels are insufferable.
Their chosen solution to thinking the world sees them as ugly and undesirable is to become unarguably ugly and undesirable. Out of all the personality types they could be, they picked "whiney and entitled, possibly to dangerous levels".
Exactly. You may or may not be undesireable, and that's arguably changeable. But you completely ensure your undesireableness by taking the pity party stance.
"Whores" aren't necessarliy sitting around feeling bad about themselves and blaming the world. Incels are the definition of self fulfilling prophecy.
If that’s his idea of a whore, that’s probably why they don’t like him.
Maybe because incels are the kind of people who would call a woman a whore, instead of respecting her as a person.
Which is gentle for an incel. Give them a place to unmask and the slurs get far worse, peppered through posts that advocate rape and celebrate murder.
Incels aren't hated for being lonely or unattractive. They're hated because they decided to take the very worst parts of men and make them a personality and no woman in the world owed that compassion.
I've known a few people that did sex work. They had pretty normal relationships, as far as I could tell. No significant drug or alcohol issues, not any more damaged than most people I knew at the time. So, I dunno, my the person that wrote that is just full of shit?
They're not talking about sex workers or people with 'normal' sex lives and relationships. They're talking about the kind of person who's promiscuous, and gets called a whore or a slut because of it. The type of person who everyone assumes has a shitty life, or daddy issues, and hides behind sex.
Unsurprisingly, it's almost always women who get called the bad names, while the men who do it get called things like studs.
It's just misogyny all the way down?
Always has been.
And with whore he means that hot onlyfans girl he’s fantasizing about who’s miles out of his league and actually makes a good living from sex work, and not the trailer trash meth head sex worker who he actually has a lot in common with.
Though from what I understand, only a tiny portion of people on OF actually make decent money doing it. Not that even the worst off ones would have any interest in this "alliance".
"Whores" aren't really seen in a negative light unless it's by the people they don't want to sleep with sexually available women are highly sought after, incels are not.
What's the difference between a bitch and a whore? A bitch is a whore who will sleep with anyone except you.
If the incelanon defines whoring as regular sex work, then anon equates being isolated because of sexist behaviour with workplace hazards. Anon and the incels can just stop being sexist and even improve their life, while sex workers have great struggles even to point out that there are artificially-upheld workplace hazards, for example talking about rape will not be easy in the sex work profession.
I don’t think they mean actual prostitution, but rather promiscuity.
How does 'promiscuity' isolate ~~you~~ one?
I don’t hold these incel beliefs. I’m only interpreting it. When they say “whores” I think they mean women with little self respect or sense of self worth who engage in promiscuous behavior as an emotional crutch and end up feeling even worse. Whores is a derogatory term, not literal.
I'm sorry for making seem as a personal argument.
Sexuality as a social coping mechanism seems so specific that generalising it to as many people as incels make it look like reflects how little they think of themselves. I wonder if that acts as a psychosocial positive feedback loop that destabilises their self-worth and the percieved self-worth of others by sexualising people, especially women, but also themselves.
Oh sure, not personal, just explaining that I don't have first-hand insight into thinking that.
Certainly they cope with their sense of low self-esteem and perceived failure by criticizing and projecting it onto other people. Also i'd revise my earlier statement to mention that they actually refer to all women as whores, not just people who have certain patterns of behavior, because they believe that all women act like that.
In their mind it does. Doesn’t mean it’s real
well, whores have useful skills. incels have no skills.
i mean, extremists of all sides are similar:
- outcasts by society
- many unable to form meaningful human relationships
- despised by normal people for straying too far from what is believed to be rational
- some other shit (idk, i'm not an extremist)
extremists of differing beliefs almost ALWAYS hate each other. just because you're similar doesn't mean you're friends
That's the plot of Little Shop of Horrors
N-no? Seymour's not an incel, he's just a bit of a dweeb. Audrey works on the side in a strip club and has terrible choice in men, she's not even remotely coded as a whore character.
Stop poking holes in my barely thought out analogy.
Hate is the incels fuel
we are both likely to die alone
Fuckin’ A, dude. I’m still waking up. I’m not ready for this level of bleakness.
Because incels don't have money and the ones that do spend it on 2d girls.
Because incels don’t have ~~money~~ any positive qualities that make their attitude worth putting up with.
Saying it just comes down to money doesn't make you an incel, but it does put you into some adjacent territory.