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APKMirror now blocks visitors allegedly because of "adblock" (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by Armacadia to c/android
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RIP the only reliable website for grabbing APKs. I don't even actually have an adblock on my side.

It's still somewhat usable after you dismiss that message but CSS screws up.

Any good alternatives? I know I can use Aurora Store to get older versions of apps, but then I'll have to find version codes for those somewhere. The advantage of APKMirror also was that it showed the minimum API required to run a specific version of an app (so I could find the last working version to install on Android 5 for example).

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

many sites have anti-adblock but most adblockers now have anti-anti-adblock in place.

[–] Kelo 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's hope they never implement a anti-anti-anti-adblock.

[–] MarsRT -1 points 1 year ago

just call it anti^3 adblock pleaseeeeeee it’s going to get ridiculous very fast

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Such a sketchy domain name.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If there is a single APK site that can be trusted, it's APKM. Owned and operated by the dude that started Android Police. Owned and operated privately in the US, following all laws that entails.

APKM is nothing like the Russian and Chinese APK sites out there. It's ran by a legit dude that personally checks every hash of the APKs he lists. It literally exists to catalog and store APKs for posterity, a huge help to the community at large. Why it was created, why it sill exists. It's also why you won't find paid APKs on there, the entire operation is run well above board, because that's the kind of guy the owner is.

I highly doubt Artem is happy to have to block adblockers. This is simply the reality of trying to own and operate a legit site that relys on ad money. You can thank Google for the amount of ads necessary to keep the site going. You can also thank Google for the demise of privately owned sites as the ad money keeps getting lower. There's a reason he sold AP, and that's because private sites can't earn enough to keep going. Now a conglomerate owns it, and you see the clickbait results and what it actually takes to earn money with a tech site in 2023.

[–] Armacadia 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't consider resorting to (any) ad trackers being an ethical way to earn revenue. First, because the site/app owner doesn't really have much control over the relevancy or legitimacy of ads shown to users (ad network admins may be doing their best, but scams will still make their way through - hey there, Unity Ads). Second, no, I'm not letting you to fingerprint me across basically all websites I visit to enhance ad relevance, since most of it ends up being like intrusive thoughts anyway, with no real use for me. In the end, it's just distracting, annoying garbage cluttering the view. I'm sorry I couldn't explain my position better.

The internet was better when the only kind of ads out there was contextual, for money or just by friendship. "Hey, so you're on my site reviewing various types of coffee? Check out my aunt's coffee shop in Prague, they're making excellent cappuccino! Click here to visit their site!"

Likewise, I would much rather prefer a service with limited functionality (e.g. ability to download only the latest version of an app in this case) in its free version to a service that throws a pile of shit at you, then asks if you want to clean yourself from it for a monthly (quarterly, yearly) fee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sadly the rest of us have to live in reality. Have fun railing against one of the few sites left that makes an effort. Soon there won't be any and your fantasy world will magically come true. You've definitely thought this through. ;)

[–] Armacadia 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do understand your point, however, the reality sucks and you're sounding like not trying to do anything about it is the only possibly right thing to do. I certainly don't feel like living in an infospace consisting of 90% of ads and possibly-maybe 10% of actually useful information

[–] Carighan 3 points 1 year ago

But isn't that the point? Support the few times someone runs ads decently?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They've been around for years and well respected.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

07c225f3.online?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

My misunderstanding! I thought they meant apkmirror was dodgy. I agree, that whatever.online domain is sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fun of using AdSense or any other ad network. Surprise, Google doesn't actually vet its ads.

This is why blocking adblockers isn't safe, Google still can't guarantee its ads are safe. At the same time, the site doesn't earn without doing this. Tough spot to be in. This is why so few private sites are left, Google and the rest ran em out of town by controlling the money flow, or buying em up. Valnet didn't go on a buying spree of the remaining private tech sites for shits and giggles.

[–] Mr_Blott 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Funny how the younguns now look at sites we've all been using for over a decade and think they're dodgy. I wonder what they'd think of expertsexchange 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have been using "07c225f3.online" for a decade?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Haha, I remember that unfortunate domain name! That said, some of the old respectable domains did become ad-ridden malware pushers - download, sourceforce, tucows .com for example.

[–] T156 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's a maladvertising popup?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which adblock are you using? I'm using uBlock on Firefox and it's working as always.

In case you're using any Chromium browser, I suggest you to change to Firefox, no because Firefox good Chromium bad, it's just because in my experience Firefox + uBlock (+ turn on all the annoyances filters) always work on any site perfectly.

[–] Armacadia 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The irony is, I don't have any. I suspect this is because I'm located in Russia where Google has disabled their ads by their own initiative (though, I'm not sure if APKMirror in particular is using AdSense or something different).

I've actually tried Firefox on Android a couple times and it always felt like a slow, clunky and inconsistent experience. It also had trouble rendering fonts on some of my past devices, not sure if that's been fixed, but I really don't mind Chrome for now.

I just really don't want to touch APKMirror anymore because in light of YouTube trying to push their own anti-adblock, this feels like a spit in the face.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, in that case you asked if there is any alternative and the only one I know is APKPure, and in any case, if you want me to download any specific apk just contact me by DM or here and I have no problem sending it to you, and you can use VirusTotal to verify that it is untouched.

[–] Armacadia 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

APKPure is no good btw. Most of the packages you get from there are in their own proprietary XAPK format, requiring you to install their extremely sketchy, filled with ads package installer to make any use of them, not to mention you probably can't guarantee the app itself is unaltered by that point. (yes, that is for stuff APKMirror often/always has in standard APK).

I guess I could still use APKMirror with a proper adblock if I really have to (I probably would pay for that damn subscription if a) it wasn't that expensive for something I use maybe once in two months and b) they didn't start forcing it LIKE THIS), but, you know, all this really makes for a feel of internet literally being a dying star.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

AFAIK xapk is not proprietary to APKpure and its safe. Its just a way to ease the installation of packages that require additional data (OBB) not contained in the apk to run. If you installed the same app from APKMirror (as an plain apk) you would need to then hunt for the obb files and "install" them manually for it to run. Packages that dont require this additional data are distributed as plain apk's in APKpure, its only those that do that come in xapk format.

As for the sketchy installers, I've seen a couple of them and they suck, I agree. Fortunatelly I discovered the other day that an app called ZArchiver (a file browser developed mainly to manage compressed files) can install xapk's without problem, its a quite competent file browser and its free, without ads.

Now if you still dont trust them you can try with the sites listed in FMHY

Edit: Just remembered a site called apk.support They too use xapk but they also offer downloads as zip files containig both apk and data or the option to download them separately directly from google servers. I've used it a couple of times without issues.

[–] Armacadia 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, pardon my ignorance! I've had no idea these are plain archives and ZArchiver could handle them - still, I don't get why APKPure would provide XAPKs for apps under 100 MB in size with no OBBs inside (example: Textra), other than to promote their installer.

edit: I guess this may be to distribute additional config APKs (language, architecture) in one file with the main app, so perhaps APKPure isn't that guilty here.

That FMHY link is also incredibly helpful, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

that doesn't seem like it'd come from apkmirror, though.

apkmirror has nudged the user to whitelist when downloading for years and just delayed the download button by ten seconds.

the language is definitely not the same and i don't think they'd do it in an alert prompt

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any good alternatives?

Mull browser with uBlock Origin

[–] Alivrah 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the way!

(Though I actually use Fennec because of the cute fox logo)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I had noscript and ubo running on Firefox Android like the others and was getting it. I was getting that popup too, but I enabled that weird number domain in my noscript and it works now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

We need a clone for that site, maybe find a way to torrent all those apks. Right now that's a single point of failure, and it's not like they OWN that content, right?

[–] AlmightySnoo 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't see that popup with Firefox + uBlock Origin on Android 14 and I tried just now to download some APKs and it seems to work fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just tried this on Android Firefox with blocking via Pi-Hole and it's working fine for me.

[–] SameOldInternet 3 points 1 year ago

Yep it's definitely a thing. For those saying you're not seeing it, that's because you're not blocking it. I use multiple layers of ad blocking but my unlock is set to block third party scripts and frames by default.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

lol ig don't use it no longer now