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[photo above] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu watches a video showing the launch of an Arrow 3 hypersonic anti-ballistic missile. The war against Gaza is using up weapons stockpiles fast. | Menahem Kahana/Pool via AP

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is so fucking disgusting. We ought to be tarring and feathering these execs and their largest investors, then taking their wealth for the public benefit.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It goes back further than that. Major General Smedley Butler wrote a book on it, "War is a Racket", back in 1935 - and I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first, either.

[–] SuckMyWang 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only people could have heard this message back then, then this all could have been avoided

[–] jarfil 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like some people heard it loud and clear... and invested accordingly.

[–] SuckMyWang 3 points 1 year ago

You’re so right.

Eisenhower: “people, hear my warning or this terrible thing will happen”

Bastards: “He’s right, we can get rich from making that bad thing he’s warning about happen.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The last decent Republican president we've had.

[–] ummthatguy 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Peace is good for business.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lower Decks, an animated Star Trek comedy. It honors and references all things Trek and is considered canon. Starts off a bit too Rick and Morty, but finds it's own ground as it goes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I love it, it takes the whole goodie twoshoes Starfleet ethos and turns it up to 11, while still being the B-team crew on a B-team ship, making it into an excellent Star Trek themed workplace comedy.

Juuuuust keep circling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Peace Sells…but Who’s Buying?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, because that's the whole point of war. Always has been. There might be a tangled web of parties involved, but money is always the consistent thread through it all.

Heavily decorated veteran Major General Smedley Butler was campaigning about this nearly 100 years ago.

[–] SuckMyWang 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why didn’t they try to stop this war then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People have been campaigning for peace in the Palestine region for longer than anyone's been alive. It's just that people pushing for war, driven by profit, have been far more effective.

What's interesting to look at, I think, is how restraint has been developed over the years. WW1 and WW2 were no doubt a big boon for the war industry, but at the same time because war was everywhere it had plenty of negative effects on the manufacturers and dealers themselves. Now, manufacturing and selling is kept safely away from the actual war itself.

[–] SuckMyWang 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can make money from weapons without having to use them. For example if I had an a-bomb on a dead man’s switch I could walk around making all sorts of crazy demands much like countries do and no one has had to use one since shortly after they were invented. Your neighbours knowing you’re armed to the teeth will have an impact on their behaviour and you don’t have to fire a single bullet. Admittedly once you have full stockpiles of ammo you don’t need to buy until you start using it. I think this is why so much goes into r and d too keep it as a psychological deterrent for your enemies.

Sorry I just read the context of this reply. Clearly Israel’s enemy don’t give a shit what kind of weapons they have

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Profiteering off of the suffering of others should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be illegal to make a profit off of weapons of war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any product fabrication is so much more than the actual product. For a weapon you need steel, machinery, oil etc. Technically the petrol station near the factory also profits from the weapon factory. Where do you draw the line who can profit from it? Until it is legal to produce any weapon someone somewhere in the chain will profit from it. In a capitalist setting this cannot just vanish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The part where I'm talking about targeting is manufacture and development. It's not realistic to penalize steel and petrol and other materials because that gets too messy and complicated.

Weapons should be manufactured only by one's government for express use in defense. No one should get paid more than a modest salary (something fair for their labor; I hadn't given it thought enough to say more than that at this time), no one in charge should make huge salaries or bonuses, it should be a thing people do because it pays rather than because of enrichment. Like how no one gets massively wealthy delivering mail or hauling garbage; sure, you can do quite well in some instances, but you're doing it to put food on the table rather than to gain power.

Sorry that I haven't more developed thoughts at this moment. But something roughly resembling this is what I had in mind when I posted the prior comment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Your tax dollars at work. Fuck you if you have student loans, we'd rather spend our money making our shareholders rich though genocide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

"Hey Bob, you taking part of the wholesale slaughter of innocent people for fun and profit today?", "Ha ha, you know it!" /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Across the entire Raytheon portfolio, you’re going to see a benefit of this restocking,” he told shareholders.

Reads like a cringy villian in a sci-fi movie

[–] tinkeringidiot 7 points 1 year ago

Obvious statement is obvious.

Fun fact: when countries use weapons to blow each other up, whomever is left always wants to buy more weapons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I really doubt it. Ukraine will use much more ordinance than Isreal ever will. But, anything to get more money from the rubes.

[–] OrteilGenou 1 points 1 year ago

War is a racket

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