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"Good luck with the future, gentlemen," County Court Judge Kellie Blair said to the pair, as she stepped off the bench at the end of hearing.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Shit's getting really bad. I mean I'm not sure what I think on the judgement, but the fact that there's people here walking around with Nazi symbols and openly literally becoming members of the National Socialist Network. How has it all gone so wrong and so... Weird.

[–] PocketRocket 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We've always had odd balls, arseholes, pointlessly angry people, racists, homophobes, all varieties of people out on the fringe of generally acceptable behaviours. Modern technology has allowed them to find community and sort of glob together much easier, be much louder and more visible, spread their particular brand of thought.

Just my musings anyway. They were always there, the regular people were just more numerous and those on the fringe couldn't find each other so easily.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think we surpassed the "finding community" part long ago.

These days white extremists are manufactured by other white extremists on social media -- the closest thing we've ever built to mind control.

The underlying grooming strategies aren't much different to the ones Islamic extremists have been using on budding young suicide bombers for decades, they just throw in a few more memes.

Oh and most importantly, profits. There's a lot of ad impressions and user engagement on the path from human being to far-right terrorist, eventually culminating in gun-based mass murder that is like Christmas for the gun lobby and for-profit media.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The brain washing Nazi funnel starts at the main stream media especially the Murdoch media empire. Social media just finishes the job.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think there's also just good old poverty and hopelessness.

It seems like life is just getting harder for younger generations. No homes, shit jobs, fix the planet for us, etc etc.

Frustration and feelings of persecution breeds this kind of tribalism and manifests as some kind of hatred.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Targeting young, disillusioned men isn't a new invention -- Islamic extremists have been doing it in the Middle East for decades.

But America has brought modern convenience to the process. Fresh meat is easy to find and they only need a few hundred bucks to buy a gun for maximum damage and minimum risk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It has gone so wrong because liberalism has failed. We need political movements which serve the people, not the corporations.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

This:

"In both your cases your prospects of rehabilitation are good," she said.

Does not really jive with this:

Sewell's reprieve came nine months after he was also spared jail by a magistrate for a separate incident, when he repeatedly punched a Channel Nine security guard at the network's Melbourne headquarters while on bail, as Hersant filmed.

[–] MayvisDelacour 53 points 11 months ago

They spouted homophobic and anti-Semitic slurs and walked off.

Chances of rehabilitation are good huh?

[–] Mr_Blott 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hikers from the Victoria state of Australia :P

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

"I swear your honour, she came at me with her hat pin!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This was my first thought as well before I put two and two together lol.

[–] qaz 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In 2017 Sewell attempted to recruit the perpetrator of the 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings into the Lads Society.

That’s just openly endorsing terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The far-right do openly endorse terrorism. The funnel starts with people like Elon, Tucker, Peterson and Rogan and ends in Discord channels where mass shooters that hunt minorities are openly celebrated.

When they're not doing that, they're brainstorming ways to breed more far-right terrorists, which almost always involves memes and identifying vulnerable communities.

[–] qaz 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’ve seen the dog-whistle memes and LGBTQ+ bashing but usually it’s not as blatantly unsubtle as this. (Well from what I’ve seen so far)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey now Australia, I know we're all in a race to the bottom, but give the rest of us a chance.. 🙄

[–] NABDad 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, in my mind it was implied that that's who we were all racing to catch up to, but I could have been more clear lol

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On Thursday, Sewell told the court that he would be “very happy with a fine” and asked the court not to impose a conviction.

It's almost like the court is encouraging their violence

Sickening

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, it is Australia.

They've made great strides recently but there's a huge cross section of society that seem like angry, hot-headed and intolerant people.

But I'm a kiwi, so could just be projecting...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Australia is already run by organized crime. I guess fascism isnt too much of a stretch after that.

[–] kerrypacker 16 points 11 months ago

These fucking idiots need to be kicked in the dick to death.

[–] telllos 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Remember what is a good Nazi!

[–] LemmysMum 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is lemmy, you can say it out loud.

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Thomas Sewell and Jacob Hersant were on Friday convicted of violent disorder, over their role in a 2021 incident where far-right extremists ambushed hikers in regional Victoria.

"Good luck with the future, gentlemen," County Court Judge Kellie Blair said to the pair, as she stepped off the bench at the end of hearing.

Sewell previously spent about six months behind bars in the early stages of the case, after he was denied bail due to fears he would commit further offences and intimidate witnesses.

Hersant, who served three days of pre-sentence custody, was also allowed to walk free on Friday but will have to complete 200 hours of community work.

Sewell's reprieve came nine months after he was also spared jail by a magistrate for a separate incident, when he repeatedly punched a Channel Nine security guard at the network's Melbourne headquarters while on bail, as Hersant filmed.

On Friday, the court heard the pair were with about 25 other men from Nationalist Socialist Network and the European Australian Movement in the Cathedral Ranges State Park on May 8, 2021.


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