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Highlights: Intimidation, backstabbing and flaunting the will of the majority are all tactics that Donald Trump has used expertly to dominate the Republican Party. Wannabe House Speaker Jim Jordan has tried the same gameplan, only to find out that he’s no Trump. It took three failed ballots for that reality to sink in for Jordan and his fuming, fumbling allies.

What is incredible is the utterly delusional behavior of Jordan and his supporters. Like Trump, they have only one strategy: louder and angrier. Unlike Trump, they don’t have the fear behind them. They overplayed their hand but are determined to keep overplaying it. Not to mention, they are complete hypocrites: now that their own strategy to sink Scalise is being used against Jordan, they can’t believe it and are furious.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the thing, Trump didn't "dominate" the Republican Party, he "dominated" the Republican Electorate, and used them to threaten the Party member's positions if they didn't back him unconditionally.

[–] Wrench 19 points 1 year ago

That's true, but plenty of yes men jumped at the carrot first without needing a stick. That was part of his sweeping take over. Sycophants leaping at a chance to ride the gravy train, who in turn were happy to help Trump swing the stick with the more traditional members. But they fell in line at the mere suggestion of the stick.

[–] logicbomb 17 points 1 year ago

Back a long time ago in January of this year, when McCarthy was losing vote after vote for Speaker, one time Trump was officially nominated by Matt Gaetz, and Trump only got one vote.

Trump is a joke, and pretty much everybody on both sides of the aisle in Congress knows about it, but since Republicans only care about holding onto their seats no matter the cost, they're willing to literally back a traitor and a joke like Trump, even if it means the end of democracy in America, or maybe especially if it means the end of democracy in America. After all, you can't be voted out if nobody can vote.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Team Jordan is no different from the leftists in academia who have spent years shouting down and cancelling their opponents, only to cry victim once the tables are turned on them.

They just had to get that little dig in, huh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, read that and thought, “you bastage.”

[–] PanaX 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gonna have to string him up by his boils!

[–] lettruthout 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bold of him to assume that Jordan has really learned something. Yeah ~~he~~ Jordan quit the effort for now, but will we see him be a changed man?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking if George Clooney got addicted to meth and then someone microwaved him for too long.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Like he stopped looking at the lost ark halfway through the face melt

[–] jeffw 6 points 1 year ago

Annnnd…. I’ll never be able to unsee it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

they haven't really worked out so great for trump either

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It was not so long ago the GOP House caucus voted to elect Steve Scalise to be Speaker, defeating Jordan by a clear, but not overwhelming, margin of 113 to 99.

After over 30 years working in, observing and analyzing politics, you learn a thing or two about the public pronouncements of ambitious politicians — namely, don’t trust them, ever.

It’s not a minor point that the cabal that de-railed the last Speaker, Kevin McCarthy — just eight members — is much smaller than the group opposed to Jordan, originally 20 and now 25 (and Scalise didn’t even come close to winning enough support).

Given the over-the-top rhetoric, attacks on cable television and death threats that were sparked by the first loss, the original holdouts have no option but to keep voting “no.” Anyone who flips to Jordan realizes that he/she will just empower those who are bullying them — they won’t have any independence whatsoever.

Team Jordan is no different from the leftists in academia who have spent years shouting down and cancelling their opponents, only to cry victim once the tables are turned on them.

When you lose a power struggle, you have to admit defeat; the winners need to be magnanimous, not punitive, as long as the losers agree to unite.


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