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I wanted to get some tips on Rogue and hopefully some build ideas, and holy Tyrael, is that place a cesspool of toxicity. If you havent played the game, from the opinions of the locals you’d had thought this game is the worst thing since WW2, every class is basically unplayable and unless you can steamroll bosses 20+ higher than you in nightmare dungeons, your opinion is basically worthless. Any interesting discussion gets swamped by trolls and unconstructive spiteful comments. I had to stop going there because I felt it actually impacted my enjoyment of the game.

Anyone else had the same experience with the official forums?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A ton of gaming forums attract a lot of toxicity for some reason. If you ever browse the Steam Discussion forums for a multiplayer game, you'll see the same toxicity. I don't know what it is with gaming culture these days, but it's frankly awful. I can't even point it out without being labeled a boomer lol. People have this weird need to dunk on others. Whatever happened to just having fun with a game?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's mostly because the majority of people writing in a forum are people who are unhappy with the game. People who are satisfied are playing the game instead of writing in a forum.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is largely the same. I understand caring deeply for a game, wanting it to be the best it can be, I also have major grips with Blizzard as a company, but damn, D4 released very well, there's no denying that.

[–] mother 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is actually my biggest reason for using Lemmy, and this community specifically, because it seems much more chill. People on Reddit that are at level cap crying about how much they hate the game. Its ridiculous

[–] MooNinja 1 points 1 year ago

Sadly it is pretty prevalent here too. The vocal minority seem to dominate everything these days.

[–] CaptManiac 6 points 1 year ago

I've got a level 57 sorcerer and am loving the game. It's a fantastic game no way about it. Those people can complain all they want: it's not going to change what the rest of us think.

[–] mother 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think generally speaking game specific communities are toxic. There are a few exceptions (Deep Rock Galactic, Oxygen Not Included) but usually much smaller user base (and/or Indie games). Seems like the more popular the game, the more the vocal fan base is just a bunch of salty sweatlords.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think generally speaking game specific communities are toxic.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. What I would say is that online communities have a tendency to bias towards toxic without heavy-handed moderation.

The simple fact is that people who aren't toxic don't want to be around people who are. So if there aren't moderators keeping out the toxic people (or at least, stamping out the attitude specifically) then after a while the only people left in the community with be the toxic ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say it's mostly games that attract super competitive types. I think they feel a lot of pressure to compete and get stressed out about any obstacle or inconvenience that they think prevents them from doing that so lash out about it. Offline single player only games seem to have this problem less frequently.

[–] Tolstoy 8 points 1 year ago

Tbh the official forum is only good for 1 thing... it's tracking bugs and problems. Most of the people there are pissed because something isn't working and while they wait for responses these people browse the forum. at least this was my experiance

[–] panda_paddle 6 points 1 year ago

I think a lot of people who loved Blizzard North's Diablo series feel held hostage to the new game. They bought it because it's Diablo, not because it's what they wanted to play. So now they hate it and possibly themselves for having supported it. I know I would have been this way if I bought it, so I didn't. I learned my lesson from Diablo 3. I wanted classic Diablo and I was given WoW-lite.

[–] altJazeera 5 points 1 year ago

Sums up my experience of every blizzard forum tbh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it's the same guys that did the ddos attack.
Like not there because they want to enjoy the game, but to prevent people from doing so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

you should not go to the Diablo 2 forums on bnet either XD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Battle.net forums are a shit show, obviously...

Shamelessly grabbed from Taliesen and Evitel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I thought the two subreddits were pretty bad... and then I visited the Battle.net forums. Holy crap.

[–] sota2077 7 points 1 year ago

Battle.Net forums, regardless of the game, have always been a miserable experience. You have severely pedantic developers and admins. Then you have some of the most neckbearded min/max players on the internet. They will get into squealing arguments over 5pts of DPS on a WOW character build. It is truly an awful place to hang out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There was that one guy on the Rogue sub-forums spamming and demanding they unnerf his Twisted Blades build. He even had a catchphrase, like “reFun or reFund”. Unintentionally hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

unfortunately companies really dont want to moderate official forums and they all usually end up becoming passive aggressive at best

just need few toxic power users skirting the rules and mods not bothering to deal with that

[–] zombie_kong 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steer clear of the forums, Reddit and Twitter.

The best place for tips is the Diablo Discord.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And even the Diablo discord has its share of just insanely toxic people

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