this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
44 points (95.8% liked)

United Kingdom

4136 readers
101 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in [email protected] or [email protected]
More serious politics should go in [email protected].

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they should stop trying to jail protesters and make room for actual criminals.

[–] ConfusedMeAgain 14 points 1 year ago

Fuck. This is so right and so depressing. I don't understand how the Tory Home secs do the mental gymnastics required to accept this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Convert parliament into a prison. Most of the inmates are already there.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to start sending people to rehab instead

[–] Decomaeker 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just don't send them to America. We have too many republicans already.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am expecting the announcement of a moon colony at any moment now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A sub-sea colony would be more interesting

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They couldn't even manage a super-sea colony[1] correctly.

[1]otherwise known as a "boat"

[–] Cobrachicken 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Whispers back not a chance, we don't want 'em

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn’t the government just announce longer/more custodial sentences for shoplifters?! Free the rapists but lock up the petty thieves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I was a betting man, I would put money on them soon enough blaming leftie lawyers for the forthcoming downturn in custodial sentences.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The government’s pledge to build 20,000 new prison places by the mid-2020s, which was a key Conservative manifesto pledge at the 2019 election, has been quietly dropped. Less than half will have been delivered by March 2025, according to official projections. So far, 5,500 places have been delivered. Plans for three new prisons in Lancashire, Leicestershire and Buckinghamshire have all been delayed owing to problems gaining planning permission.

[–] ConfusedMeAgain 1 points 1 year ago

If people want more prisons, they should have them built in their neighbourhood, so it's fair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fucking clown show.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Judges have been told to delay the sentencing of convicted criminals currently on bail – including rapists and burglars – because prisons are full, according to a report.

Earlier this year, in a court of appeal case, Edis said that for offences which attract shorter terms, judges and magistrates should consider imposing suspended sentences given “current prison population levels”.

Last year, the government announced Operation Safeguard, the emergency use of 400 police cells to hold inmates.

To much criticism, it recently said it would seek to rent prison cells in foreign countries to alleviate the squeeze in England and Wales.

In his court of appeal judgment in March, Edis cited a letter from the then justice secretary, Dominic Raab, which said: “Detention would be harsher than before on account of high occupancy levels, reduced access to rehabilitation programmes and the possibility of prisoners being detained further away from home.”

Speaking to Times Radio, the health secretary, Steve Barclay, refused to confirm or deny that judges had been told not to send some convicted criminals to jail owing to prisons nearing capacity but acknowledged prisons were under “huge pressure”.


The original article contains 548 words, the summary contains 188 words. Saved 66%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Half-baked idea: Rather than not putting people in, start letting long-servers out to make room.

Lots of problems with it, sure, hence half-baked, but there must be quite a few long servers whose early release would be less harmful than letting the unimprisoned receive no punishment (or even extended inconvenience) at all.

Or are prisons already full of people who are more harm than the people we can't fit in there any more?

I mean, if hospitals can kick people out when they need the bed...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even better, let everyone in there for drug offenses, sex work, and no violent crime out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same issue has been going on in Ireland (RoI). It's disturbing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I realize this is a bit off topic, but do UK's judges still use those fake wigs today? I know that they did in back when the US split off, but I just wondering if they still do or if this is just a relevant stock photo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're still worn by higher court judges here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Barristers too. (In the UK barristers are the lawyers who argue in court, solicitors are the lawyers who do the paperwork and find barristers for clients who need a hearing in court.)