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I wonder how/if the states of these workers will reemploy them

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How can you be so cold? They've barely had decades to prepare for this eventuality.

[–] Bahalex 16 points 10 months ago

They are so cold because there is no coal to keep them warm… much sadness indeed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It's not about being cold, the workers that are working in coal are not at fault. Imagine you being a mid thirties guy in Indonesia, when you were in early twenties looking for a career in a couple try with sever lack of jobs that pay high enough to sustain a life that allows you to own a house and a car near some urban area, when world is still warming up to the idea of Global warming, you will take the coal mining job because it pays well, allows your kids to study in English medium schools. Allows you to save to send them to university. They are only trying to get what a lot of people in developed have taken it for granted. And it's a legitimate problem on how to re-employ people from early retirement of coal plants.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago

Prison industry faces thousands of layoffs as Allies liberate Nazi concentration camps!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hear that solar companies are hiring.

[–] charliespider 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Installing solar has got to be a way better work environment than anything coal related

[–] CADmonkey 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've helped install a couple of smaller solar setups, and not once did I ever have to deal with explosive gas buildup or a cave in.

[–] charliespider 2 points 10 months ago

and not once did I ever have to deal with explosive gas buildup or a cave in.

...YET ;)

[–] zepheriths 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Remember one of Trump's first moves was to subsidize coal mines in west Virginia? Instead of paying for miners to retrain for a new skill with that money he kept an industry everyone knew was dying running. And everyone says "he's a business man" no "business man" would keep an unprofitable industry in business.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

German CDU did similar bullshit.

They cut funding in renewables, costing those sectors >100k jobs to protect around 20k jobs.

One might think it wasn't about jobs at all, but that sweet sweet lobby money

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey you forgot we were also leaders in those fields technology wise. And iirc they only protected only 10k jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Leaders in lobbyism cough~~legal bribery~~cough?

Yeah i think the 20k was an estimate of a total of jobs in the affected sector, not all of which would be cut? I'd have to look into the source again but yeah, it was pretty clearly cxu bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No actual leaders our solar panel industry was quite good afaik. And of of the day it doesnt matter if it was a 5:1 or 10:1 ratio bullshit is bullshit. And if you want to have high blood pressure look up who of the NRW Landtag espacially CDU has a job at RWE.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ah yeah true, sorry i was caught up im memeing on the party.

I know, in general its fucking crazy how they can claim to be unbiased in these decisions.

Club Deutscher Unternehmer checks out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

lol that fellas a clown

[–] cantrips 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure Trump's companies aren't profitable either. So kinda makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The same businessman who is such an utter business failure that he has resorted to declaring bankruptcy SIX times. Checks out.

[–] ScruffyDucky 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

World faces ALL job losses if no global energy transition (not to mention lives)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

coalminers: just making money, making sure my children have no future

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Good. That's what you get for trying to go backwards in time

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm surprised 1 million people still work in coal. Edit: 1 million globally. Makes more sense

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They've tried constantly to transition them but they'd rather starve than learn a new skill. I feel for them but if they only want to go all in on voting for "fascist force the country to run on coal" I don't feel for them once the stopgaps run out.

Some of those communities ARE finding their way into the future though and I support supporting them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I’ve got absolutely zero sympathy for anyone in the coal industry who refuses free retraining. Go ahead. Go bankrupt. See if the rest of the world gives a shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The people who want to move on from coal move out, thus a sampling bias exists where the diehards live off promises that can't be fulfilled

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Good! That frees those workers up to do something else useful for society!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

*worldwide.

There are nearly four times as many fast food employees in the US alone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s almost like there could have been another industry similar to this that existing workers could have gotten training for. ☀️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Nope... competing industries had to get killed to keep coal alive because that's what lobbyists would reward politicians for with lucrative jobs after their political career. For this reason the former German government for example killed an once world-leading solar industry via massive overregulation... 100k jobs gone to keep 10k coal miners in their job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


SINGAPORE, Oct 10 (Reuters) - The global coal industry may have to shed nearly 1 million jobs by 2050, even without any further pledges to phase out fossil fuels, with China and India facing the biggest losses, research showed on Tuesday.

Hundreds of labour-intensive mines are expected to close in the coming decades as they reach the end of their lifespans and countries replace coal with cleaner low-carbon energy sources.

But most of the mines likely to shut down "have no planning underway to extend the life of those operations or to manage a transition to a post-coal economy," U.S.-based think tank Global Energy Monitor (GEM) warned.

Dorothy Mei, project manager for GEM's Global Coal Mine Tracker, said governments needed to make plans to ensure workers do not suffer from the energy transition.

GEM looked at 4,300 active and proposed coal mine projects around the world covering a total workforce of nearly 2.7 million.

China's coal sector has already undergone several waves of restructuring in recent decades, with many mining districts in the north and northeast struggling to find alternative sources of growth and employment following pit closures.


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