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It's my 3rd attempt at writing this so forgive me for being disorganized. I'll try to keep it short.

Basically after long time of denying it, I have came to a conclusion that I have ADHD about 3-4 months ago. I consulted my psychiatrist about it and she says that I indeed have many ADHD symptoms (im 19m, parents pay for everything).

I live outside of US, so attending college is basically someone everyone does and so I picked Management as a field of study (you know where this is going). I had a massive hyperfixation for programming like 2 years ago but because It caused me to succumb to my interest instead of doing homework and studying, I developed a massive aversion towards it.

I have now been attending college for a few days and except for group exercises (they're very stimulating so I have no issues with focus) my focus is completely trash. Lectures being the worst, I found tapping the desk with both of my hands to temporarily help me focus, but after this I feel completely mentally exhausted. I come home and cannot do absolutely anything.

I now think of switching to computer science since maybe I'll renew my interest. Needless to say, Management is the worst fucking field of study I could've chosen since IT TOOK ME A 2 DAYS TO FINALLY GET MYSELF TO WRITE THIS. So basically when I told my parents about me wanting to switch field they replied by listining every adhd symptom i have and always had and complain about it. "you're always bored", "you keep changing your mind", "you always begin most difficult stuff then drop it."

So far my hyperfixation's had been (in order):

  • programming
  • stock market
  • japanese language

And when I asked about getting official diagnosis they said I make shit up, then keep on complaining about every adhd personality trait i have. I told them to read about adhd on wikipedia, they didnt. They probably think im trying to get prescription for stimulants or something to get high idk. Just tell me itll be alright im shaking from anxiety. I couldnt focus on lectures because they were only a little interwsting. I also cant even watch tv series alone for the same reason and everything bad about my life has been about school. only a lecture from economics was interesting to me but i failed at exercises because 1. careless mistakes, 2. different than expected way of thinking that doesnt align with a key, although i could argue that its correct. shshdhdhcjaksjcb just tell me itll be fine. im already diagnosed with autism (by regular psychiatrist during normal meetings lol) but shell never diagnose me with adhd since its too risky, except that i dont even want stimulants just someyhing like guafancine or wellbutrin.tell mr itll be alright im losing my mind here

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get medicated.

It doesn't matter what you current or past hyperfixation is, or will be. You will get sick of whatever you study.

You either need to get medicated, or have iron will to get through with sheer discipline.

If you don't, you likely will not pass. So college will be a waste of your time and money. So you should either become a self taught programmer or find a stimulating job with no college needed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I ended up needing to take the latter of the 2 options, and I wouldn't wish that torture on my worst enemies.

Straight out of HS I went to Uni, and it always felt like I wasn't doing it for myself. 2.5 years and $20k later I left hastily, and went to college after a few months off. I didn't get it right in the first year, but I went into game dev after that and barely squeaked by. Even with it being a very strong interest of mine, it was very difficult to drag myself through it. I met some incredible friends along the way that helped keep me focused enough, but it was hard.

Fast forward 3 years, and here I am now, diagnosed with mixed ADHD, medicated, with more focus than I've ever had. Its still not great... I have 27 years of bad habits to break, but it's getting better.

One of the biggest things I can offer as advice is know your enemy. ADHD is tricky to deal with, but not impossible. If you have the option to make itbeasier to manage, I'd try to find a way and make it happen. I can't speak to the autism part, but the ADHD is something that you can manage. It just takes some time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you spoken to your department/college dean/administrator? I was extremely shy about it initially in college until a few Ds happened and I was basically forced into the conversation.... but if you let folks know clearly about your formal diagnosis and thoughts about ADHD then they can probably help out. For instance, they can making sure you can schedule classes during your daily peak and advise individual classes to take that will help fulfill requirements for both degree paths. They may also be able to advise resources that can help confirm a diagnosis and get you medically recognized.

Just FYI, I've been a programmer, data architect, senior engineer and manager with ADHD - you can make these things work but it's certainly something that comes with some unique challenges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wish there was more awareness about adhd where i live. If i could do what you're suggesting it would surely help but it'll still be hard to maintain attention during subjects that i dont find interesting, even when i want too. the issue about diagnosis is that i was recommended one clinic that does them the price was high above what i expected. 7 times what i (my parents) pay for one psychiatric appointment

[–] MrPoopyButthole 3 points 1 year ago

It sounds like you need stimulants. It's easier to cope with ADHD symptoms later in life, not because they go away, but because you learn how to accommodate them and have built your life around them. When you're 19, people still expect you to perform and compete with your peer group. If the psychiatrist doesn't want to help you with ADHD, then try a new one. Ask your parents to listen to the medical professionals. If you can get the meds, just take them religiously and grind through your work. It does get better, but not any time soon. So be brave and try to think about your direction in life when you have times of clarity and focus. They will come, they are just few and far between. Good luck! We are here if you'd like to chat.

[–] monkeyman512 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I personally get a lot of benefit from caffeine. That may be able to help you some in the short term. This YouTube channel may help you find some coping strategies also: https://youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGG?si=FkxBbmMp0VFkzoa0

I'm sorry your family isn't being supportive right now. That sounds really painful. I believe in you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I saw this channel on my homepage but never bothered to check it out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/@HealthyGamerGG?si=FkxBbmMp0VFkzoa0

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hey is actually really great that you're figuring this out before it's too late. (Not that it's ever too late but I think you know what I mean)

I agree with someone else's suggestion that a second opinion is worth pursuing.

I don't know a lot about autism but I think it has some overlapping symptoms so I can totally understand the doctors hesitation.

I've only found medication somewhat helpful, and don't agree with the others that it is definitely what you need. But I do agree that you definitely do need help.

When I was in school (undiagnosed) one of the techniques that really worked for me was what I've now learned is called body doubling. Basically doing everything with someone else. I had a classmate that took good notes, but didn't really internalize them while taking them, so it was my responsibility to pay attention in class so I could explain his notes to him while we did the homework assignments together. It worked really well (in the classes we had together).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I highly recommend making your parent watch this conference which is available in 3 parts:

https://youtu.be/GyZtYzFq4WY?si=2QfG-Ph3rMTU0gbY

https://youtu.be/M8dLiH1LFx8?si=B-69xzy9fctq6WzQ

https://youtu.be/sPFmKu2S5XY?si=KX-oNWeSOw9EMA15

It doesn't cover much of the struggles coming from ADHD besides the most common ones but it's a very good introduction to neuroanatomy of ADHD and what it means in practice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/GyZtYzFq4WY?si=2QfG-Ph3rMTU0gbY

https://piped.video/M8dLiH1LFx8?si=B-69xzy9fctq6WzQ

https://piped.video/sPFmKu2S5XY?si=KX-oNWeSOw9EMA15

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] burnso 2 points 1 year ago

It will be all right. I have been in a similar and made it out fine. Take a deep breath, step back and try to look at the big picture.

  1. What are the immediate problems? How big are they really (what is the worst that could feasibly happen, is it really as bad as you think it is, vocalize them)? Filter out the things that aren’t actually a big deal, prioritize the rest and work on them one at a time. No more, no less.

  2. Make it a priority to get yourself a diagnosis and a treatment plan. If your current psychiatrist won’t help you, look for another one.

  3. Don’t worry about the big picture stuff right now. You’re not in the right headspace to make any big decisions. If you can put your studies on pause I would advice you to do so until things have calmed down. Make sure you have something going on though that keeps you active and occupied without being stressful or taking over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's quite a bit of comments so I'll try to reply to them all at once. I saw comments suggesting medication and I agree with them. I've tried a bunch of different things in the past (not for adhd specifically but overall):

  • to-do's (they work, unless i miss something and dont write it down)
  • meditation
  • cold showers and while these indeed worked to improve my performance when it comes to what i like. it never helped with school and my entire life i've been misled into thinking that it's lack of motivation/laziness rather than lack of focus, while it's actually lack of focus causing lack of motivation as you can probably tell, im rather immature despite and many tasks would be done by my father instead of me. he'll just insist on doing something for me when seeing me procrastinate for days. my mom's a pharmacist, thus the issue with medication. I tried to look for other sources of my inattention like depression, anxiety, autism, sleep deprivation, caffeine dependence or even diabetes. So i'm pretty sure its adhd (i wish it wasnt)

I had a talk with my mom and although she does not understand how can i not focus even i try. she agreed to schedule a visit with my usual doctor, ill ask for a non-controlled substance as a medication and i think it'll be fine