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[–] Delphia 309 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Nsfw, Nsfl, and "Porn"

I like nsfw memes but dont want my feed full of porn. I have a seperate account for porn.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago

Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same "NSFW" tag...

Of course there's going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single "everything people might not want to see" bucket.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But all the sfw porn subs ruined it.

Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals”

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think sfw porn is still porn. If we're being honest, it's not sfw either

[–] keefshape 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop.

Edit - its not sfw. It's a trap. Get an axe.

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[–] danc4498 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a "porn" and "full blown porn" tag or hardcore versus softcore.

I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like "serious" is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc...

Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point

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[–] fruitSnackSupreme 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I've tried and failed.

[–] RGB3x3 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apparently lemmynsfw.com.

But it's mostly celebrity pics, so I'm not entirely sure where else.

[–] Hildegarde 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or just copy Mastodon and do content warnings. They're a lot more versatile.

[–] keefshape 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so, for those of us who are avoidant of other places?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm confused on what your question is

A content warning tag is similar to a spoiler tag, but you can fill out the warning yourself. So you could type something like "movie ending spoiler" or on Mastodon you'll see considerate triggers like "TW: suicide" for various trigger warnings.

Which the ability for that makes more sense then having multiple individual tags. Also ActivityPub supports it already anyways, and it works nicely on Mastodon

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Not Safe for Work versus Not Safe for Life?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think content warnings would be a better approach to this, all other fediverse software have content warnings anyway. Making community content to force use content warnings would be helpful too.

[–] dth 8 points 1 year ago

i agree, use of cw would be more useful because ’nsfw’ is just too vague and not specific enough.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Porn vs gore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Not safe for lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I haven't seen anything gorey here, luckily. I would much rather see an automatic video tag for both titles and comments. Kind of sick of opening YouTube unintentionally.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

RIGHT!?!?! Like I hate taking a gamble on whether I'll see an infected maggot ridden foot or a big breasted cat girl turning into a Willy Wonka blueberry.

At least I did on Reddit, I can't get the porn to show up on Lemmy outside of one or two completely dead instances I have to go out of my way for.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are already there. But it's in wonky markdown....

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[–] owlboy 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Huh, that does not work in Voyager.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

And so, begun the client wars have.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. Throwing everything that you may not want to open at work in with hardcore porn as an all-or-nothing view choice is incredibly shortsighted.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Where even are you seeing gore? I left Reddit a while back and I miss eyeblech.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

There's plenty of combat footage in the various combat footage and Ukraine related communities.

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[–] SGG 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NSFW and NSFL can mean different things to different people and cultures.

Best example is that in some countries, showing a boob isn't straight away NSFW as much as it is in America.

Opposite example: In America, showing blood is almost G rated at this point (at least it feels that way to a non-American watching American media). In China you effectively can't show blood in any media.

As has been mentioned in the comments already one solution would be more specific categories, probably customizable by site admins to suit their particular site culture. Either that or a site can stick to just a single NSFW tag to donate a more "hey, this might not be the best thing to look at".

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just do NSFW and PORN.
Porn is the reason for wanting a distinction, so don't beat around the bush.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

A gore or nsfl tag is much more important than a porn one. The disturbing shit that will haunt my nightmares is what I want to keep off my feed, I'm not particularly worried about accidentally seeing some genitals.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, the NSFL tag is more important imo. I don't mind seeing tits randomly, I do not wanna see gore ever, period.

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[–] Thrillhouse 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think gore as well. Things can be nsfw but also not gore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

at that point it'd probably be better to just have a CW system like Mastodon

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is one of my dream features to make lemmynsfw moderation easier, alongside site mods and content warnings (alongside the ability to edit and force nsfw on posts in specific communities... and maybe being able to by default turn off instances caching OUR images as a "do not cache" server flag....)

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