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[–] TwoBeeSan 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeaaaaaah booiiii. Here come those feedback loops.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean this?

A collapse of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) leads to global cooling through fast feedbacks that selectively amplify the response in the Northern Hemisphere.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep14877

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So now we have global cooling to look forward to?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm not good at explaining this, here's the science on climate change

Climate change and the developments it spurs carry the narrative of the Quaternary, the most recent 2.6 million years of Earth's history. Glaciers advance from the Poles and then retreat, carving and molding the land with each pulse. Sea levels fall and rise with each period of freezing and thawing. Some mammals get massive, grow furry coats, and then disappear. Humans evolve to their modern form, traipse around the globe, and make a mark on just about every Earth system, including the climate.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/quaternary

[–] dangblingus 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's an AMOC collapse, one of the likely outcomes is literally The Day After Tomorrow. The science in that movie is surprisingly grounded in reality.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not even remotely accurate. It would cause notable changes and likely widespread famine but not anything as instantly apocalyptic as the film. Temperatures wouldn’t change dramatically aside from Northern Europe. The gulf stream’s effect on temperatures is smaller than people think.

The bigger change globally speaking would be shifting precipitation patterns. This could lead to dramatic aridification of parts of Africa and India, and large increase in precipitation in North America. But it’s not going to trigger some kind of hemispheric ice age as depicted in the film.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry there's a pill for that, I've seen the adverts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, Jack Hall will save us!

[–] sturlabragason 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Iceland is not the one made of ice. Confusingly, that’s Greenland. According to this data, Iceland would get colder over the centuries. They won’t disappear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think that's what they meant, tbh.

There are a lot of people who don't do well with the cold, or they might not find it enjoyable to live in. A lot of Iceland's heat comes from the ocean. If that heat goes, some people would likely move elsewhere.

[–] sturlabragason 5 points 1 year ago

I should know I'm from there and currently live there. The decline of the gulf stream will heavily affect Iceland. It's basically the only thing keeping this northern rock warm.

In my lifetime the weather here has been getting more and more extreme by each year. (Was trying to find the source to back this up but i can't remember where it is rn, probably here somewhere: https://www.vedur.is/gogn/)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Iceland will be disappear under thick ice

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"While we can definitively say this weakening is happening, we are unable to say to what extent it is related to climate change or whether it is a natural variation," Piecuch said. "We can see similar weakening indicated in climate models, but for this paper we were not able to put together the observational evidence that would really allow us to pinpoint the cause of the observed decline."

What observational evidence would prove it either way?

[–] dangblingus 3 points 1 year ago

The scope of the study wasn't wide enough to get definitive evidence that it was man-made climate change based, or simply natural periodicity of climate zones. The Earth has a shit load of climate data over thousands of years to sift through, and that costs money which may be outside of the budget of the study.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago