The election is more than a year away, the article was about YOUNG people, and Democrats have been massively overperforming in special elections, demonstrating that there's a polling issue right now.
See you in a year.
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This is so scarily reminiscent of Dem complacency in 2016. Learn from history lest you be doomed to repeat it. Please.
I'm not suggesting or supporting complacency. We do not have this in the bag, and we had damn well better be prepared to fight every step of the way, because progress is an existential threat to these assholes.
I'm just suggesting that we don't get cynical and apathetic, either. We can and will win if we don't give up, but cynicism and apathy are just as much the enemy as complacency.
Your entire post is supporting complacency.
No it wasn't, it was fighting misinformation (the article in question had been specifically about young voters, not the overall electorate), and against ridiculous dooming. We have no reason to lose hope right now or declare the election over more than year before it even happens.
I'm not telling you to lose hope. I'm asking people to avoid the same lazy complacency that handed Trump the presidency in 2016. Trump fans will vote. Dems have got to get the turnout to beat them.
Well, then you and I are in 100% agreement, and I'm sorry if my attempt to counter a doom-filled narrative came off as complacency. It wasn't my intent in the slightest.
this isnt a second poll clustering with the first one. its the same poll people were talking about on sunday, when it came out: https://nypost.com/2023/09/24/trump-scores-10-point-lead-over-biden-poll/
Polls have been off the past few elections. Polls said Romney, Clinton, and Trump would win the last three elections. Soooooo Ya let's not put too much weight in these.
This simply isn't true.
There's a trend there we should all pay attention to.
Not saying don't be vigilant when it comes to voting but polling is still using 1940s rationalization when it comes to who they poll. Young people don't pick up calls, so they are vastly under counted here.
I feel this needs to be said every time there's a national poll like this...
We don't have national elections. We have a bunch of state by state elections, and as Al Gore and Hilary Clinton proved, it doesn't matter how many people vote for you if you don't win the right states.
We won't really know the score until the Republican primaries and we can compare the votes in 2016 and 2020 vs. now.
I've got a chart ready to go, I just need numbers. 2016 Trump Primary vs. 2016 Trump General vs. 2020 General vs. 2024 Primary.
Every republican I talk to says they want Biden out, but they aren't supporting Trump, cause "he turned out to be as crazy as the democrats".
"I don't like him, but I feel like I'd have to hold my nose and vote for him..."
We like Biden almost exactly as much as we liked Hilary. Meaning, the vast majority of us don't because they are soulless life long party politicians.
At least Biden doesn't need to overcome the fact that he was a life long Republican until his wife became president, then he was suddenly a democrat with no noticeable policy changes.
The American people are done with Republicans and Democrats (IE: The Party), and Trump has carried over a ton of Republicans into his currently non-party camp.
I think Biden is going to go up against a new dumbass, and Trump might get through to end America.
Bernie should have never kissed the Democrat ring.