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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

But they won't. Why would they?

[–] ErikDegenerik 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well they actually did. This is from leaked Google store pages for the new Pixels.

[–] ErikDegenerik 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because doing so is, to people who run businesses, throwing money in the dumpster

[–] Voytrekk 13 points 1 year ago

Google has one advantage over other Android device makers. They make profit off of the Play Store at a much higher rate than they do from hardware sales. If this change brings more people over from iOS to Android, it will be an overall win for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Google makes money from providing service and advertising. It has more to gain from supported devices than without.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because they don't have a monopolistic position in this market yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because they can say they will, possibly sell slightly more than they predicted. And then in 2 years say that they cannot support it anymore anyway.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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No, i don't think i will. How bout i just leave your site instead?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ya, how dare a website gets revenue to pay their writers and server host.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They could show you where the ads will be placed and display a non-intrusive message saying please whitelist this site, then I would consider it.
If they aggressively ask me to turn off my adblocker with pops up and such, then I am just going to leave the site or block the popups. Sites push the most cancer ads and are then surprised when people want nothing to do with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Okay, and when you wonder why websites shut down, it's because people like you.

Leaving the site is fine. Blocking their pop-up is just stealing their bandwidth.

You're the reason many websites have become pay per view, which then I'm sure you bitch about. Nothing in life is free. Either you pay to access, or you view ads.

It's actually sad that you're upset that a website is asking you to disable Adblock so they can continue to fund their website, and provide you with free content.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am willing to pay if i must, but not with ads. I dont use any particular site enough to justify a subscription, but i would be perfectly willing to pay say 1 millenero (0.001 monero) to read the article.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And I'm willing to pay tree fitty for iPhone 15. take that.

This is not your kindergarten playtime where you set the price and pay it with fake money. Shove that crypto up yo…

I am willing to pay if i must

of course bud, we believe you. πŸ’―

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So you're basically saying you're not willing to pay at all, because crypto is not real money.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it gives you the option to continue without disabling lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, i did not see that. Oopse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don't notice a lot of the time with these websites too. They're really good at hiding the option to continue without disabling ads

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got the same on Vivaldi(mobile), then I opened the URL in Firefox(mobile), and I guess thanks to uBlock origin, I was able to read the whole article.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used firefox to open it, but i have a DNS level adblock in place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Works on mobile with adguard and chrome.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could start levitating. But I won't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And pigs could fly - but they don't

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That word is doing a tonne of work here

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So which Pixel hardware survived seven years in the past? πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Still have the OG Pixel XL for unlimited image/video backup. Released in 2016. battery doesn't last long, a little burn in but still works well with Android 10.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without replaceable batteries, there's no way I'm holding onto a phone for that long.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The batteries are replaceable. Just not user-replaceable and therefore a bit more expensive. Typically $80-100 a pop for Pixels.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How on earth did you not have that bullshit battery disconnect issue.

I had three of them, after a certain period of time it would always show 50% battery and not charge. Just death.

They eventually upgraded me to a 5a, that I've had for a few years but I'm astonished that anyone still has a pixel 2.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

7 years of security updates alongside feature drops, which hopefully translate into 7 years of OS upgrades, would be great. The hardware may not be as repairable as the fairphone, but I guess something is better than nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a Pixel 6 and after 1 year the battery is terrible. I intend to move to Pixel 8 because of longer updates and Desktop Mode. Unfortunately they don't have removable batteries yet.

[–] tankplanker 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they would just offer an official replacement service like Apple does for the iPhone then this could be my next phone. Sure its expensive (around Β£85 for an iPhone 12 Pro), and sure it is often easier to get some random 3rd party shop to replace your battery but I would rather pay more for less risk with the replacement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do have authorized repair services at least in Canada and the US. Battery replacement with a genuine part is $80-100.

[–] Gruntyfish 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have an almost 2 year old pixel 6 too and I'm thinking the same thing. I really wanted to keep this for longer but I'm not sure I can justify buying a replacement battery when I know that the 8 will be supported for longer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't, you don't need a new phone as phones have reached peak performance. I would suggest you to try installing graphene OS or any other custom roms from XDA. If you dont know how then ask someone who's tech savvy and they will make your old phone, a brand new phone.

[–] Gruntyfish 2 points 1 year ago

I totally would, but I have the Verizon pixel 6 unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am already using GrapheneOS. I realized this problem with my battery after August Android Update.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am thinking exactly the same. Probably I will give my Pixel 6 to my father and buy a new Pixel 8 because of the longer support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't, you don't need a new phone as phones have reached peak performance. I would suggest you to try installing graphene OS or any other custom roms from XDA. If you dont know how then ask someone who's tech savvy and they will make your old phone, a brand new phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really? With average usage, my 6a ends the day at 70%+

Maybe you got a lot of crap running

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My 6 Pro's battery is nearly as good as new after 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I am already using GrapheneOS and all apps that I am not using are disabled.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's odd cuz I'm also using GrapheneOS. Pixel 7 should have a better battery then my 6a

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

While on an fairphone where a "normal" user can change various parts himself it makes sense, how does this workout on a pixel or any other "not for selfrepair" built device?

A screen module of the fairphone is 70€, so you drop it and change the screen yourself. Continuing to use it.

More than 4/5 years updates with batteries dying due to fast/ultra charged cycles doesn't make sense in my point of view.

They will for sure require original parts installed in the manufacturer repair shop.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I totally trust them this time...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Man and I just bought a new phone like 2 months ago.. I would have much preferred this for the longevity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd love to see that happen. At the very least security updates. It's a shame when a device stops getting updates rendering it an insecure device despite the hardware still being capable of quality performance. Especially with phones costing more than laptops.