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[–] Ace0fBlades 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They don't want to compromise battery in favor of performance and I agree. With smaller games like Hades or cult of the lamb my steam deck battery will last and last. On more demanding games like cyberpunk or Armored Core I get a little over an hour out of it best case scenario.

Beefier graphics hardware will only make that issue worse.

[–] ABCDE 7 points 1 year ago

I so often use mine plugged in as I'm not walking or in a park, I'm on a bus or train which can often have a plug, so not much of an issue there, however I'm not playing high-end games, it's so good for stuff like Hades and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Personally I don't plan on playing big games like these on the go anyway, so battery life isn't going to be a problem.

I was thinking of getting a docking station with an m.2 slot for those bigger games to play when I'm home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Only waiting for new generations of GPUs and CPUs can help there I guess, those usually push things a lot in a performance per wat comparison!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

They don’t want to compromise battery in favor of performance and I agree

The battery life is already 5 seconds. No need to make the problem worse.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

I'm not in a rush, and stable specs makes it easier for devs to get their games to work and Valve to improve Proton.

The next version is definitely on my radar, but for now my desktop works well enough.

[–] caut_R 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The thing that made me reconsider buying one is the screen. Make an OLED version and I‘m gonna get one. I‘m not worried about the performance, I‘d get a deck for stuff like Dead Cells and Spelunky, not for stuff like Cyberpunk.

If they made an OLED version and offered replacement screens for burn-in cases in x years, that‘d be absolutely amazing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think you can upgrade the screen

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fine by me, just keep supporting the Steam Deck and being awesome. Love you Valve!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just hope they can bring the weight down in the next version. It’s a little too heavy for me to use, and I was so sad when I realized it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hold it with one hand

Do curls with it

Change hand

Repeat

Couple of weeks later it will feel light as fuck holding it with two hands!

[–] eyes 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy's trying to trick us into working out - Get them!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey wait a minute, this guy is trying to trick us into getting out of our chairs! Get them!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey wait a minute, this guy is trying to trick us into getting out of our chairs too! Get a steam deck in each hand and write mean things about him on both.

[–] Chailles 8 points 1 year ago

Playing on the Steam Deck for a few weeks and then picking up a Nintendo Switch, it felt like I was holding air.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's lighter than I expected for its size. What problems are you having with it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a genetic disorder that causes my tendons and ligaments to be weak, so I get sprains and dislocations easily. I’ve sprained a finger pushing an elevator button before, and dislocated a knee standing up and taking a step. My hands are so stupid weak I couldn’t even get a Switch, I had to get a Switch Lite. I can’t use Xbox controllers because the D-pad and left stick being switched caused me to accidentally dislocate my thumb once.

The Steam Deck is just slightly too heavy for me to hold for long, because you carry some of the weight on your middle fingers when you’re holding it. When I was trying it, a middle finger joint started to go out of place.

The ergonomics of the Steam Deck were great; so I was so upset when I felt my finger starting to give. I had only played for about 10, 15 minutes before I started having problems, and I had to tape my finger after I got home from trying it.

I’m a rare case, I know, but usually new versions of electronics tend to be slimmer and lighter, so I’m hopeful.

[–] Dettweiler42 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On the plus side, you can use any Bluetooth or USB compatible controller that you find comfortable and a cheap stand to make your experience more comfortable. Steam's controller support is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but that’s not going to be very easy to do on the train, or laying down in bed, and having to carry around a controller kills a lot of the portability, which would be the whole point of a Stream Deck for me. And if I’m going to play at home, I’ve already got a gaming PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh shit. I'm sorry about that.

If there's one thing the Deck is good for is customisation. It's not ideal but I wonder if it's possible to design handles that don't put so much pressure on your middle fingers or grips that wrap around your palms.

As you can tell, I'm not someone who specialises in ergonomic design.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, it seems like we're starting to see smaller performance gains per generation especially in battery devices. Makes sense to not force an update until real iterative performance is available. Asus's ROG Ally was 1.5-2 years after Steamdeck and seems mostly on par.

[–] echo64 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda wonder what kind of effect a more powerful nintendo device will have on the whole ecosystem. Nintendo devices are automatically probably going to run smoother watt for watt just because developers will likely prioritize optimisation for that device, so it's all a bit of an uphill battle for the steam deck there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nintendo never makes anyhow powerful devices, they juat rely wntirely on developer optimization and only certain dwvelopers are willing to put in the time well and money to publiah for their propriatary and expensive frameworks in the first place.

[–] echo64 -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • famicom: very competitive at the time, advanced in some areas
  • snes: very competitive, more powerful in many regards
  • n64: widely accepted as the most powerful of that generation
  • gamecube: more powerful than ps2
  • wii: this one is the least powerful you have that.
  • wiiu: widely accepted as more powerful than x360/ps3
  • switch: powerful hardware for a handheld of the time.
  • rumoured switch successor: rumored to basically be a portable ps4.

Your theory does not hold water. And it is full of typos. You need a better mobile keyboard.

[–] Chailles 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't really comment on the earlier consoles, but those are some pretty biased comparisons.

The GameCube is more powerful than the PS2, but then the Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube. Then you have the Wii. But then WiiU being more powerful than a console coming out 6 years prior? What kind of argument is that?

The argument for the Switch doesn't prove anything when there's very little investment in the handheld console market when the Switch came out. And also, who cares if the Switch's successor can beat a decade old console? I swear, my phone probably can run a PS4 game based purely on its processing power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not only that but the processor it had was like a 2 year old design when switch was released

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The WiiU wasn't more powerful than the competition but the old ones where, they gave up on compeating in terms of specs with the Wii and the Swit h uses a mobile processor that was old and slow even when it came out and can easily be surpassed by most phones if it wasn't for the insane optimisation. They continue to proof that games matter more than specs and that's a very profitable and well working strategy so idk where you got those rumors from but I am 99% sure the next switch will have a relatively slow ARM processor again and there is nothing wromg with that if it's enough fun, it just requires a lot of work from the game developers that not all of them are willing to put in. About the typos, no keyboard in the world can fix my drunken typing and I am fairly happy with mine but thanks for the suggestion I guess...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The switch 2 is rumored to be more powerful than the ps4 an old console at this point in time that also had relatively seeker hardware than it could or should of at the time (same with Xbox the and jaguar cores were not that good)

[–] GillyGumbo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm holding off until a new version. Doesn't necessarily need to be faster, but I'm sure they've learned a ton with this release. Interested to see their 2.0 release.

[–] Chee_Koala 1 points 1 year ago

Only thing I would ever want more is battery, but I've never even drained it and I carry my power brick with me everywhere for my phone/ laptop anyway so. I'd just get this version on the next discount (if I did not have a similar device).

[–] TeoTwawki 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just want a slightly higher res screen. Not by much just a bit more. Thats all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I would upgrade for a slightly smaller, more battery efficient Steamdeck with an OLED screen. I know that's a lot to ask for, but definitely performance is the least of my concerns.