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[–] Vorticity 98 points 11 months ago

It is worth noting that US authorities participated in the investigation and raid according to the article.

[–] Missjdub 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wow! 5 years to life. Do not fuck around and find out in Asia.

[–] nxfsi 32 points 11 months ago

There was a tiny and insignificant event in neighboring China called "the opium wars". Tends to make Asian governments a bit touchy about drugs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Skorea out here busting a small time dealer and 12 customers with a huge multinational raid, bloody pathetically sad of them.

[–] Ryantific_theory 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For real, I knew a guy that kept an ounce as his daily supply. As in, he'd set aside an ounce each day for casual smoking with friends. This whole four month raid was over three days of heavy college smoking. The demonization of marijuana is such a ridiculous waste, and leads to weird stuff like selling K2, which is a shittier version of weed, with actual risks as you can overdose on K2.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not even a shittier version of weed; it's whatever random chemical the supplier could find that's legal that day and has vaguely weed-like effects in whoever they decided to test it on.

[–] Ryantific_theory 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's a cluster of synthetic cannabinoids, but it was officially banned by the DEA after they finally skipped past the banning specific molecules and banned the entire family of cannabinoids, so it's no longer the molecule of the month special.

Still not ideal though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool, my information was pretty old. For once the DEA made a good decision. The main reason I quit using it pretty quickly was that I didn't like the idea of getting different substances without warning.

[–] Ryantific_theory 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I thought it was really neat at first, but it became pretty concerning once they started playing whack-a-mole with the compounds. Probably one of the few situations I also agree with the DEA, though, that's partially contingent on legalizing marijuana instead so there's no reason to deal with all these loopholes for people that just wanna get high. Just let them do it safely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Bingo. The only reason to smoke kush/spice/k2/whatever-other-dumb-name-the-marketing-comes-up-with is because you want brain damage. Smoke the real stuff, and you can avoid the permanent effects.

[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When you go to another country you obey the local laws

[–] trashgirlfriend 13 points 11 months ago

you can think other countries laws are stupid and harmful

[–] Ryantific_theory 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, sure, but raiding two military bases and facing 5 years to life for having some vape juice and a couple ounces of synthetic marijuana spread across twenty some people is absurd. Especially when places are steadily legalizing marijuana.

[–] jaybone 8 points 11 months ago

When Russia did this to that WNBA player, it was not acceptable.

[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Counterpoint, if you are willing to risk life in prison and dishonorable discharge for some vape juice maybe it's good you're not in the military anymore.

[–] Hboc22 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah, vape juice, what a stupid risk. They should just do like the rest of the military and commit to completely legal alcoholism. How dare they partake in a cheaper and far less dangerous alternative.

[–] Ryantific_theory 2 points 11 months ago

US military bases usually count as US territory subject to our laws, the difference between UCMJ charges for K2 possession/trafficking and South Korea's is enormous. Normally this would have been handled in house.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


South Korean police are investigating 17 US soldiers and five other people who allegedly smuggled or used synthetic marijuana via military mail.

A tip from the US Army's enforcement arm had sparked a four-month investigation by Korean authorities.

It was one of the largest in recent years involving American soldiers, US media reported citing Cha Min-seok, a senior detective in South Korea.

Joint raids by South Korean police and the US Army's Criminal Investigation Division found 77g (2.7oz) of synthetic cannabis, more than 4kg of "mixed liquids" used for vaping and a total of $12,850 (£10,440) in cash at the 22 suspects' homes.

They are accused of smuggling synthetic marijuana - known by the street names K2 and Spice - into the country through the US military's postal service.

In South Korea, those convicted of trafficking marijuana face from five years to life in prison.


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[–] ysjet 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So am I missing something? 2.7oz seems hilariously tiny?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From the full article

'In South Korea, those convicted of trafficking marijuana face from five years to life in prison. Drug possession carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison or a fine of about 50m won ($37,200; £30,300).'

So even possession is punishable. They aren't going to care that it's a small amout, and with the cash they also confiscated they will assume there was more that had already been sold. That is where the trafficking comes in I would guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about Korea but in the US, trafficking doesn't necessarily mean trafficking. It means having more on hand than some bureaucrat decided a normal person would keep for their own personal use.

[–] johnzoidburg 3 points 11 months ago

This is correct, if you have over 28 grams of weed (at least in my state) and plan to use it all for personal use, it doesn't matter. Per the law, it is- prema facia evidence for trafficking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They are accused of smuggling synthetic marijuana - known by the street names K2 and Spice - into the country through the US military's postal service.

That might be a part of it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

2.7 oz is a stupid amount of K2 (synthetic cannabis).

It's already a ton of natural cannabis. If you cup your hands together, that is about one ounce of weed which will keep you fucked up for a while. Now imagine 2.7 times that, and since it's synthetic cannabis it's way stronger.

Edit: To be clear I don't think weed should be illegal, and South Korea has draconic drug laws. I use it myself, which is how I know that 2.7 oz is a lot of weed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I knew a guy who'd go through half an ounce every day. I thought that was a pretty fucked up amount, but then I've never been a really hard-core stoner, and it was probably Mexican ditch weed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That dude must've just been constantly high.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

He pretty much was.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

they call it spice! poetic, i love it.