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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes! Let’s abolish the H1-B and replace it with something that makes it easier for work visa holders to change jobs and gives them an automatic green card after a few years of employment. The looming threat of deportation for visa holders and the lack of obligation for companies to sponsor green cards puts way too much power in the hands of employers.

Also I’d be in favor of a better pathway to long term residency for folks who are highly educated/educated in the US.

I assume that’s not what this guy is saying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah h1b definitely needs a reform. It gives too much power to the employers to treat the h1b holders any way they want because of the issues you mentioned. Hopefully there's somebody who wants to really reform it instead of trying to eliminate it.

[–] scarabic 2 points 9 months ago

I’ve seen the misery this creates up close and it can be really ugly. Imagine all jobs were on a two year contact where you could always quit but you wouldn’t be allowed to get any other job during that time. The shit employers would get away with just because they knew they could… I’m getting a small taste of that at my company where we’ve laid off thousands and the company knows the open market is really hard right now. The talk has gone from “we want this to be the place you build your career” to “this is your job, take it or leave it.”

[–] scarabic 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was going to say “I want to get rid of it too,” but to replace it with something better.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The American Dream™ for me, but not for thee. As is tradition.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am an Indian and just combust seeing this guy say shit about immigrants and all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Also Indian - remember Jindal? Representation is great 🫠

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Use ladder.
Look down on other people waiting to use ladder.
Pull up ladder behind you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ramaswamy is a US citizen by birth (required to run for president)

He used the visa system to hire people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

May be not him but his parents.

“My parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago,” he said. “I have gone on to found multi billion-dollar companies.”

I wonder what visa his parents came under if they had no money.

[–] Skullgrid 3 points 9 months ago

If H-B1 or similar: doesn't look good. If illegal migration:doesn't look good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Same thing. He used then ladder to better himself financially and through connections that exist from what he did and is taking it away so others can't use it.

[–] Lon3star 14 points 9 months ago

Standard POS entitlement syndrome

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 9 points 9 months ago

Always pulling up ladders behind them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would like this sub to be a great place for civil discussion of different viewpoints, so please feel free to comment your views in support of Vivek

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

As an H1B worker myself, I agree there needs to be some reforms to it, but the latest trend seems to be to deal in absolutes on all issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know who started the "facts don't care about your feelings" saying, but at this point it appears to be more like "feelings don't care about your facts."

[–] RGB3x3 6 points 9 months ago

I want to say that was Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, or one of the other conservative sentient assholes.

[–] GrossMargin 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The OP article looks like it's sourced from this article from Politico. In it, the only quotes attributed to Vivek on this topic directly are the following:

Yet, the H-1B system is “bad for everyone involved,” Ramaswamy told POLITICO.

“The lottery system needs to be replaced by actual meritocratic admission. It’s a form of indentured servitude that only accrues to the benefit of the company that sponsored an H-1B immigrant. I’ll gut it,” he said in a statement, adding that the U.S. needs to eliminate chain-based migration.

“The people who come as family members are not the meritocratic immigrants who make skills-based contributions to this country.”

I guess, based on the above, I agree with Vivek here. I'd want to know specifics to what other detailed changes he'd support, but I'm not sure most people in the US would have an issue with the above sentiment. Interested to hear others' thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with the first two points but the las point is ridiculous. H1b workers' families come under h4 (family is only spouse and children under 21, no parents or siblings), and h4 cannot work by design. My wife has the same qualifications as me, but had to quit her job to come as my h4, because it is not easy to manage two h1bs in sync. She can get an EAD now and work again (republicans are against this), but now she has to focus on bringing up our child so she is staying home. You want skilled workers but don't want them to have families? Where is the logic in this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

"You want skilled workers but don't want them to have families? Where is the logic in this?"

You're supposed to work for low pay and then leave.

[–] BaronVonBort 4 points 9 months ago

I worked as a tech recruiter a while back and had a lot of H1-B clients. Is there fraud in the system? Assuredly yes, and reform is needed. But if you did away with the program today, there are so many companies that people rely on that they don’t even think about (lots of banks, insurance companies, and people who do unseen stuff) rely on these employees because sometimes there are like a handful of people in the world who know the stuff they need.

If the US managed to get their educational infrastructure in place to support learning these skills and not having to rely on foreign brainpower as much? Sure, maybe I see the point. But that’s by far not the case - we just don’t have the workers needed to thrive in the modern economy, and it’s becoming more and more apparent as other countries churn out skilled workers and we keep dropping in the educational rankings.

[–] SoonaPaana 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stupid man's promise --> 1. Promise something ridiculous --> 2. Attempt to enact it but fail miserably because said promise is infact ridiculous --> 3. scream treason --> repeat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Enna oy area pakkame kaanom? Na mattum thaniya eee ottitrukken

[–] SoonaPaana 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Manikanum oy. Konja naala Lemmy Ku dhrogam panniten. Reddit use panna poiten. Ippo marubadiyum thirundhi vandhiruken. 🙏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

seri vandhadhu than vandheer, angendhu oru naalu uruppadiya inga thallittu vandheera illa ippavum namma rendu per than ee ottanuma?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ELI5: an American citizen getting a foreign visa 29 times

Edit: Oh. He hired 29 people. Got it.