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just my luck... (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 months ago by Monster96 to c/[email protected]

It was THIS close to becoming a demo

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago

I don't know how well they work, but people are working on tools for navigating to Godot.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When I opened GitHub this morning, Godot was the #1 trending repository. So yeah.

Everyone with half a brain could have seen something like this happen from a mile away but yet here we are. If you lock yourself in with a proprietary vendor, they can screw you over later. See also Reddit. And if I were to venture a guess the same will happen with Discord.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

Until you make 200k you don't get charged. So you're likely fine to release it and if it's successful port it to a different engine before you hit that.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Problem is that if you intent to monetize it then you might "accidentally" make a good game that is installed a lot and maybe you charged 5$ upfront via steam. Now you come by the 200k$ threshold and have to pay steam 30% and assuming worst case you have 500k installs.

Meaning you owe now unity 100k$.

So 200k - 60(steam)-100k is 40k$

You have now 40$ left to produce your game.

Even worse. If you have now stopped selling the game due to reasons. People reinstalling it will cost you 20 Cent

[-] piecat 2 points 8 months ago

So wait. If I bought a game they can just brick it down the road?

[-] Yokozuna 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well yea, if you buy any digital game anywhere but GoG, I don't know any others that have policies like theirs, you're basically just renting it, you dont buy the game you just buy the license. GoG has a system set up to where you actually own the game, and if they went out of business tomorrow, you could still play your games fine.

Let's say you happen to buy a game or dlc off of a second-hand site and redeem it on steam, origin, or whatever launcher. You use it, and it works, and you play for a while, no problem. Well, if that key you bought is flagged for whatever reason, and the publishers of said game can decide to revoke the license you bought, and that's a wrap. Because that's all you're buying, even straight from steam or anywhere else - just a license. I used the second-hand website as an example because it does happen there. I haven't really heard anything happening on legit purchases straight from a vendor, but the legal wording is all there, and what I described is possible.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

$200k divided by $5 is 40,000 sales. You aren't likely to have 500k installs from 40,000 sales....

[-] bappity 13 points 8 months ago

no idea how much time and work it might take, the hype could die down in-between if it's a long time

[-] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

So just release it as a demo then? Pay per install doesn't apply to literally everything built in Unity.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Doesn't it tho? I thought everything that looks like a download gets billed like a download...

[-] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago

It only kicks in after you make a certain revenue with the game (200k USD for Unity Personal and 1Million USD for Unity Pro). So if revenue is 0, it will never kick in.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

How unity know your revenue?

[-] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The same way any company that has a contract dependent on the other side's revenue (or the tax services for that matter) does it. If you use Unity you have to report your revenue, and if you are caught lying their lawyers are going to shred you to pieces in court.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Also, you're liable for whatever amount their AI says you're liable for. And you're liable for whatever amount their install telemetry says you're liable for. Whichever is greater.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

You have to report your income to them monthly.

[-] Monster96 1 points 8 months ago

Ah, OK well now I know. Wasn't too sure about that.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Sounds like an class action lawsuit

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I was also going to use unity for my video game, but as I saw that unity changed their policy, or is going to change it too the worse in January. I’m going to stick with Godot.

[-] Aermis 1 points 8 months ago

I've been living under a rock. What's going on with unity?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

They want to charge the developer a fee for each install of any game made with their engine

[-] PunnyName 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Make like 10 "versions" that people can choose from. So it's harder to get to the individual download threshold.

[-] TheCheddarCheese 3 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Should’ve used godot

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