Lemmy

I'm trying to create a healthy porn community on lemmy. And the hostility of lemmy towards it is worrisome in my opinion. People are calling for de-federating lemmynsfw, people file false reports on my NSFW-only communities, the majority of instances ban porn,…

IMHO, there should be only two tags "NSFW", "NSFL". (= Not Safe For Life, meaning gore) There was this running-joke on reddit last year "when I was younger 'NSFW' on /r/all meant boobs, now it's most likely a video of a bomb being dropped from a drone blowing up russian soldiers."

I don't think we should rate the degree of NSFW or NSFL. Where is the line? I assume a topless lady is NSFW, not porn. But is a fully nude woman or man NSFW, or porn? If it's still "just" NSFW, what about two fully naked men holding each other penises? Or a woman on her knees looking at a penis without touching it, with her mouse open? This is a very fine line.

I'm in favour of most european broadcasting laws: visible nipples are fine as long as they're not sexuality, but "16" or "18" rating is recommended. Visible anus, vulva or penis makes "18/Unrated" mandatory, whether there is intercourse or not.

I would translate this to lemmy to "anything with nipples, anus, vulva or penis visible is NSFW, regardless of intercourse" No grading of "NSFW" or "porn."

Agreed. I don't want all that mildly NSFW content when I'm scrolling porn.

I would rather see gore have its own tag before porno, personally. I don't mind getting smut in my feed, but I'd rather not see a corpse/someone die in the same feed/category as nudity.

Honestly, multiple nsfw categories would be great

Mastodon has a system of user-definable Content Warnings that hide the rest of the post and any media attached. Due to just how broad NSFW can be something like this may be a good idea. Maybe you're ok with nudity, but not porn. Maybe you're ok with porn but not (certain act/fetish/whatever). Maybe you're ok with violence, but not dead bodies. Lots to think about there. Defining all of these in advance or trying to come up with categories such that it is actually useful to everyone sounds like a path to madness and fetishes you never even knew existed.

These can also be used for things that aren't necessarily NSFW, but also uncomfortable topics such as "miscarriage", "cheating", or even just "spoilers for ". They're pretty versatile.

I think this is the most important feature I'm missing. I want to see NSFW stuff but not porn

"Not Safe For Life"

There's worse things on the net than dodgy porn

Agreed.

I feel like a pink "XXX" tag would suffice.

Nobody is jacking off to that. Never subestimes nobody.

I know I'm late to the game commenting in here, but I think it's important to distinguish whether we're talking about people merely adding descriptors to their NSFW posts or whether we're talking about a whole tagging system being implemented into the Lemmy protocol. Adding a full fledged tagging system to Lemmy similar to Mastodon would be a pretty big undertaking. But anything short of that would feel like a kludgey, bolted-on solution. The NSFW flag + user added descriptors is the only way for users to go about it for now.

I do think a conversation about adding tags into Lemmy is worthwhile because tags could potentially allow for a lot of neat things. E.g. we might eventually be able to start making custom feeds by aggregating content from multiple similar communities across instances. It would also let users filter tags they don't want to see at all (regardless of whether it's NSFW) or don't want to see by default (i.e. blur the images until they're selected). But I know the Lemmy devs probably don't want it to end up looking like a Reddit/Mastodon hybrid or just become kbin, so this is something they'll consider carefully. I think right now they're rightly focused on database and federation performance and the broader dev community is helping with more immediate needs like spam account mitigation. They've gotta stop the bleeding and get a solid foundation established before building major changes like a full fledged tagging system.

You just look at the community name to determine what is hiding under the NSFW tag.

Simple, [Content Warning Tag]-(User Description Of Content Warning)

I personally like the roulette every time I make a risky click. Am I going to get some horrific medical gore that doctors use to desensitize themselves, or am I going to get cock and ball torture, maybe it's a sports illustrated calendar girl, or bread nailed to a tree. Who knows? It's the internet. A terrible place where you can't trust someone didn't intentionally mislabel something just to trick you into watching Rick Astley busting some sick dance moves to a catchy song.
I suppose they could make differentiating nsfw types an optional thing though.

I'm thinking that having a generic "NSFW" flag and then a bunch of different tags you could use as modifiers would be better. "NSFW" would trigger the "blur/hide/whatever this" code, and you could filter based on #porn, #gore, #semprini, whatever, for the specific kind of stuff you're interested in/not interested in.

NSFW category tags would be pretty handy.

I'm rather partial to how Twitter does it currently, by letting users choose a set of NSFW categories, from a generic "sensitive content" tag, a violence/gore tag, and/or a nudity/sexual content tag.

Maybe they could be implemented as part of a wider post tagging system?

I wonder if there's a way to block porn on main feed but keep a side one for when I want to see it. I like me a nice ass, but its awkward to have one shoved when I just want to check news and see prequel memes.

Full fledged tagging system would be cool and help with discoverability as well as filtering.

I think, instead of on/off filtering mechanisms like block, ban, de-federation, NSFW, etc, we should be able to share filtering preferences. Like, an instance curates their own and you can choose to adopt it or not, customize it, etc. Every new user would start out in G-rated land, and could "whitelist" their way to enlightenment.

Hey, sorry I'm late to the party.

I would be willing to have a compromise in the we tag porn submissions with a trailing underscore or another identifiable but not intrusive symbol that users can then filter out.