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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by cowboy_oh_gee to c/asklemmy
 

I'm looking for communities and websites where controversial issues are neither censored or insta toxic flame wars. instead looking for something that is formatted for open in depth discussion. You might say "you have arrived" here on Lemmy, what else is out there?

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[–] Candelestine 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That public toilet across from the Institute For Public Services is pretty good. I'd avoid Tindahan Asian Foodmart though, the people there didn't seem very interested in discussion.

[–] slazer2au 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't. Either a platform is skewed to one side, people take an argument against a stand as an agument against themselves, or people argue in bad faith. If you want instances where controversial topics are openly spoke of check out the instances page and scroll down to the bottom to the blocked instances.

[–] cowboy_oh_gee 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link, this will help me find more topics at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You haven't "arrived on lemmy". Stuff aren't being cencored people just hate the people who randomly start fights in bad faith and call it a debate. Or chronically online people who for long haven't touched grass who randomly DM you and say that they want to debate.

[–] cowboy_oh_gee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just looking for a debate platform where there are moderated debates. Many platforms are censored or over moderated beyond their specified guidelines.

But I'm not looking for just a thread platform with no moderation, I'm looking for a public platform where logical debate on hard topics is part of the design.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Social networks generally aren't for debating and its annoying If they're used that way. Still good luck finding a platform to scratch that itch ig

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's especially likely that you'll find consistently interesting, well-reasoned discussion through any platform bringing together anonymous strangers in an ephemeral manner.

I think consistently interesting discussion has shared stakeholding as a foundational aspect - participants need to actually care, either because the discussion is a product of some commitment they've each made (e.g. reading something for a book club), or because the participants are familiar with each other and the outcome tangibly matters (e.g. a physical town hall meeting).

Otherwise, I think you're more likely to get what you're looking for from adopting some tangential hobby and having those discussions with the friends you get through that.

[–] cowboy_oh_gee 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your thoughts

[–] stingpie 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you ever find anything, please tell me. I have a lot of arguments, but nobody to argue with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes you do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm imagin8ng a self dissecting discussion where topics are sorted into a table of contents at the top (highlighting opposing but reasoned viewpoints), and quality discussions can follow the fractal comment threads. If you know of this an6where, I want to know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find Tildes is pretty good for this sort of thing, as long as you take the time to actually write something decent behind the post to show you are asking / debating in good faith and not just being an asshole.

[–] cowboy_oh_gee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks I'll have to look into that. This is a lemmie/mastodon instance or it's own thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's own thing... and it's definitely trying to not be the same as Lemmy, Reddit etc

Have a read of the stuff here:

https://docs.tildes.net

And see what you think... if it's for you, you can email admin for an invite (which can take a couple of weeks due to backlog) or find another user with invites left to invite you (I'm out at the moment)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

probably not truth social