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Translated from source:

The Russians were kicked out and the exchange fund was replenished. Work of the 3rd company of the 2nd mechanized battalion🇺🇦 3 OShBr in the direction of Bakhmut. Assault positions and close combat.

Losses on the part of the Russians are 12 - 200, 2 - 300. And three more - for exchange. There could have been more prisoners, but only three accepted the offer to surrender and save their lives.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just another checkbox on ruzzian speedrun to break all the geneva convention rules. This week: Perfidy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also something everyone else learned is not a good idea as perfidy results in the enemy assuming you are doing it and executing anyone wounded or actually trying to surrender. But Russia seems to have missed most of the memos documenting what actually did and didn't work during WW2 - like if you actually want someone to surrender, try not to rape, torture and kill all their civilians and soldiers, as that tends to make the rest of them angry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

They might be doing it just for this though. To prevent actual russians that want to surrender doing it, you convince the other party that it's usually a trick, so no more accepting surrenders. Then you go back to your own and tell them 'there, now nobody will believe you. you have to fight for us or die'. between this and the brigades hunting down deserters, it's a really nasty spot to be in for those that don't want to fight. Back to fragging then?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should listen to the Dan Carlin podcast series "Supernova in the east" about the Japanese war crimes - I believe similar train of thinking may be taking place in modern day Russia, leading to the same style of widespread war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've been relistening to SNitE, and its such a good show. Dan does a good job talking about how horrible Imperial Japan treated prisoners, because just listening to the events make me mad to this day.

The stuff that Russian soldiers are doing are real good ways to make the opposing side to not take prisoners, just as the Australian and American forces tended to not take chances with Japanese wounded and even already dead.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I intend to use "perfidious" as soon as possible.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was expecting them to be executed on the spot for the perfidy. These Ukrainian soldiers have a lot of self-control

[–] Alchemy 39 points 1 year ago

Definitely would not want to be the guy walking out trying to really surrender.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats what I was thinking. Situations like this would definitely turn me into a war criminal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afaik it's fair game to kill anyone fake surrendering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Aside from being the moral thing to do (albeit totally understandable if they hadn't)

They know they are filming and doing it this way is good optics

[–] Astroturfed 2 points 1 year ago

How in the fuck did they not execute that second one? I'm going to shoot that one a couple times in the stomach and let him bleed out slow after the first one.... Crazy self control.