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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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    Sorry, Bloomberg Law has the world's finest paywall, and I've found no way around it, so we get only a tiny peek at the article, but that's enough.

    The Eighth Circuit said Friday that two St. Louis County police officers weren’t entitled to qualified immunity after they allegedly bumped into a suspect’s car on purpose during a pursuit, then failed to render aid when he crashed into a tree and died.

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[–] atempuser23 17 points 1 year ago

This is super suspicious. The offer was on duty , engaging in a traffic chase and engaging likely in a pitt maneuver. Then waiting for emergency services to render aid.

This is like qualified immunity bingo.

Was the officer black or reporting others for misconduct?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can’t read the whole article. I’m surprised the county police were this bad. I know the city police are garbage.

They played Russian roulette on duty and killed another officer.

[–] DougHolland 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never been to St Louis, but everywhere I've lived the functional difference between city cops and county cops is that the county cops have wide-brim hats.

[–] JJROKCZ 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

St. Louis is nearly unique of major cities in the fact that our city and county are separate counties and legal entities. Only the few miles of downtown and the immediate surrounding area are the city/county of St. Louis city, population 300k, the next 40 miles are st Louis county and consist of several cities such as Clayton, Brentwood, kirkwood, maplewood, ballwin, Manchester, Town & Country, Creve Coeur, etc, pop of all of these added is the 3+ million people that generally call themselves St Louis residents.

All of our cops suck.

[–] brianorca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not unique. LAPD (city) is the third largest police force in the nation. LASD (county) is fourth.

[–] JJROKCZ 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not just our police that are split, everything is split. The “city” of st Louis as most understand it is actually over a hundred legally separate cities that are all close to the each other and a whole bunch of unincorporated areas that don’t participate in anything

[–] MrClayman 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, that’s insane.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DougHolland 2 points 1 year ago

That's one of the all-time gruesome gun-worshiping greats of stupid psychotic policing, and as always at the heart of it lies the lies:

The St. Louis circuit attorney’s office has previously criticized police, saying they obstructed the investigation...