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[–] PP_BOY_ 33 points 1 year ago (19 children)

"Oh you're an anarchist? Then solve literally one problem that doesn't create ten other, worse problems. Seriously, just one. Please"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (21 children)

imagine there is a evil capitalist who makes your fav social network unfree. and there is a anarchisticly organized fediverse that gives you a save haven from it.

[–] glimse 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lemmy is not anarchy. The fedivierse is not anarchy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anarchism is not the absense of rules, it's about free association, cooperation and avoiding unjust hierarchies.

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[–] perennial 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well technically each user could have their own instance if they choose to do so. They'd be free to interact with who they choose to interact with and block who they wouldn't want to interact with. They'd be free from any outside hierarchy. Many user choose not to do this, but that doesn't mean the system is inherently hierarchical.

(I'm excluding the fact that not every user has the capital to host an instance)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

So, who's in charge?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, but thats literally the problem with authority. Any problem it can solve can also go unchecked in creating 10 more.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look I'm not saying we have to switch to a total lack of hierarchy immediately. I just want us to start at the top and eat our way down and see how that affects things.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

(Researchers going over ancient Internet history): Wow there must have been some SERIOUS food crisis going on from 2000-20xx! There's so much talk about cannibalism and guillotines!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On Lemmy, it's more like "oh you're an anarchist? You obviously haven't read enough Lennin"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm entering my years as a senior anarchist, and I always find it funny when some in their 20's who got their entire personality from a podcast tells me to read to read On Authority or State and Revolution or something. My dude, I actually read people I disagree with, do you? Because only someone that doesn't would think those are profound criticisms.

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[–] twistypencil 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People keep saying that about lemmy, but I haven't seen it. Maybe it is your filter bubble?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

To be fair, your instance has defederated from the 2 large tankie instances.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Same here, these people constantly complaining about "tankies" seem to vastly outnumber the alleged tankies in my experience

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't it the opposite here. Idk if when they say tankie they mean leftist hexbear users or maga type right wing people. That's not trying to insult hexbear. I literally don't know.

I get called a tankie or centrist here compared to reddit where only a few times I was called a centrist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tankie generally means a Marxist-Leninist, specifically ones that support the USSR under Stalin

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[–] Mojojojo1993 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure eating billionaires and pumping their Ill gotten gains into systems that help humanity would fix most issues. Kill off any greedy fucks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] isthingoneventhis 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This meme applies to any ideology sufficiently removed from the current state of things. Ideologies are fun, but conversations that ignore how much work is required to transition get boring after a while.

Which is why I think slowly eating our way down from the top is far more interesting and safe proposal than any pure ideology.

[–] CthulhuDreamer 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My house is on fire. I am gonna call firefighters.

Anachrist: First you should dismantle capitalism.

[–] twistypencil 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anarchists aren't against firefighters, though? Only the police.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're against the state and hierarchy in general

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefighters aren't inherently hierarchical. An anarchist society would still have firefighters.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't equate to being anti-organization.

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