this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
236 points (98.0% liked)

World News

39154 readers
4440 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Something_Complex 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And everyone posting attention to some millionaires in their submarine doing this as an option instead of as a need to get a better life, escape hunger or poverty.

[–] toxic 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Possible rescue story is more interesting than hundreds dead. It’s sad but we hear about death all the time at this point.

[–] basequal 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF the boat disaster could have been a rescue story as well if someone cared enough. There are two major countries naval fleets in the Atlantic, whereas the story is much different in the Mediterranean.

[–] bl4ckblooc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Greek Coast Gaurd literally watched them die

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's also because the news heavily cares about how different and interesting a story is. The sub story:

  1. Is just weird and different. Boats sinking happens all the time, but disappearing subs is rare and unusual. It's like how car crashes will barely get any attention but plain crashes will.
  2. The fact that the sub is still out there makes for a continuing story to report. There's also the mystery element of "what went wrong?" I see a parallel to MH370, that plane that mysteriously vanished over the ocean a few years ago.
  3. It gets to prey more heavily on people's fear. Being on a sinking boat is scary, but there's something even scarier about being in a stuck sub that can't even be easily reached and has no possibility of escape from.
[–] Yoz 3 points 1 year ago

Capitalism at its finest

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly packing that many people on a boat is the same level of stupidity as a billionaire making his own submarine from parts he got at Home Depot then dying in it after repeated warnings...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Europe has been dealing with illegal migrants just like this for decades. It's not a new story. The arguments have been made a million times already. Governments argue they need to stop these illegal crossing because they're dangerous, and they're shouted down by activists who believe there are no borders or something. There are billions of poor people in the world. They can't all fit in Europe. I'm sorry, but not every poor person deserves the right to life-long social security in a European country. We would collapse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

300 Pakistanis capsize, the world: "I sleep"

3 billionaires and a con man build world worst submarine and sink, the world: "Real shit."

Clown world.

[–] Impressive_Towel2 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] ilickfrogs 2 points 1 year ago

Where? I just see a crushed pop can...

[–] sycamore 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article doesn't say they were illegal immigrants, did you make that part up?

[–] jrs100000 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It certainly implied it :

The chairman of of Pakistan’s Senate, Muhammad Sadiq Sanjrani, disclosed the numbers in a statement Sunday, sending condolences to grieving families of the dead. “Our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we pray that the departed souls find eternal peace,” Sanjrani said. “This devastating incident underscores the urgent need to address and condemn the abhorrent act of illegal human trafficking.”

[–] sycamore 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Human trafficking is illegal but is not illegal to seek asylum.

[–] jrs100000 2 points 1 year ago

I know and I agree. Thats why I left it at "implied".

[–] souperk 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Greek here, they were illegal immigrants. They were helpless people in a boat with a broken engine. They were people fleeing from a war. They were people that didn't ask for help fearing pushbacks, concetration camps, and police abuse. They were people the coast guard stood and watched them die for 3 days.

[–] sycamore -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not illegal to flee a war.

[–] Noedel 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legal immigrants usually don't come on a shitty boat

[–] sycamore 0 points 1 year ago

"Legal immigrants" includes asylum seekers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What is the route they are taking? Overland through Syria?