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The proposed rule would lift the salary threshold for overtime pay from $35,568 to $55,000.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember when Obama did this exact thing and Trump just immediately undid it when he became president?

[–] Anticorp 7 points 1 year ago

And all his constituents that he was screwing over cheered him for being "a smart businessman".

[–] MrLuemasG 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, it got overturned by a Federal Court before Trump took office. Trump WOULD have undone it - but he didn't have to.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/22/503081151/federal-judge-blocks-obama-administrations-overtime-pay-rule

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You do not recall correctly.

https://www.epi.org/press/the-trump-administrations-overtime-rule-leaves-millions-of-workers-behind/

His justice department didn't defend the rule and then he replaced it with a much weaker version.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Cool and I propose we make the minimum wage a living wage instead.

[–] TenderfootGungi 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would hit millions of teachers.

[–] Cheesus 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it would. My wife is a teacher and her contract states she is only paid for teaching time and school mandated events like staff meetings or training. Any kind of of time spent outside of school preparing lessons or grading isn't paid time. One of the tactics teachers use leading up to a strike is to only work contract hours and have everything else fall behind to have parents put pressure on administration.

[–] sploosh 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Teachers not getting paid to grade just means that our educational system is run on/by state-mandated slavery. Gross.

[–] Anticorp 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good solution. Don't grade papers if there's not enough time to grade them during paid hours. Especially don't grade the standardized tests that the schools are so crazy about.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Salary threshold? I'm salaried. I don't get overtime. Neither do a lot of other salaried people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

2x minimum wage for a 40 hour work week is the salary threshold. If you make less your employer is breaking the law. In California the salary threshold is currently $64,480.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm bad at math, but I'm pretty sure I make more than that. I live in Indiana. Minimum wage is sickeningly low. $7.25/hr.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's federal minimum wage. So it's the $35,568 from the article which Biden is trying to raise to $55,000.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you make more than $35,568?

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do not. My job sucks and I deserve higher pay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm really curious what you do where you are salaried with that low of a pay. Totally understand if you don't want to share though.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, not willing to share. But let's just say it's a very small company owned by a very large company but allowed to be autonomous. I'm the lowest paid person here despite having huge responsibilities too. I'm looking for a new job, but it's got to be WFH. I'm on a hybrid schedule now, one of the few reasons I've stuck with this job for so long, and I don't want to work in an office at all anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe that if you make below that threshold as a salaried employee and do not receive overtime pay for hours worked over 40 per week, then your employer may be violating a rule.

Wage theft is the largest category of theft in the USA.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be shocked if there was wage theft going on, but there's also no way to record my hours. No one to keep track of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds remarkably convenient for your employer.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago

Like I said, the job sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why aren't you keeping track of it? The labor board exists. Use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aww salaried people, not hourly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Hourly people already get these overtime pay protections

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

""""""""""proposal""""""""""

Good luck. This isn't going anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was already done by Obama and then undone by Trump. It does not need congressional intervention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that sounds an awful lot like not having gone anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It went somewhere, and came back. It was the law of the land for a brief time.

[–] MrLuemasG 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It got overturned by a Federal Court before Trump took office. Trump WOULD have undone it - but he didn't have to.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/22/503081151/federal-judge-blocks-obama-administrations-overtime-pay-rule

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You should look up the words "preliminary" and "injunction."

https://www.epi.org/press/the-trump-administrations-overtime-rule-leaves-millions-of-workers-behind/

His justice department didn't defend the rule and then he replaced it with a much weaker version.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Imagine being told that you have to work for free because they deem you worked too many hours in a world where you can hardly make enough to pay for rent let alone buy a house.