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Signs are growing that Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian defenses along part of the southern front lines in Zaporizhzhia region and are expanding a wedge toward the strategic town of Tokmak, while stepping up attacks on Russian-occupied Crimea.

The Ukrainian General Staff said Friday there had been further success in two areas – towards the village of Novoprokopivka and further east in the direction of another small settlement, Ocheretuvate.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they can get 10 miles past Tokmak they can rain hell on the M14 highway with 155mm howitzers, cutting off most supplies reaching Melitopol and areas farther south.
Then if they dig in and hold it becomes a waiting game.

[–] Corran1138 24 points 10 months ago

Don’t forget blowing up the train tracks leading into Tokmak! It’s not really about taking Tokmak but putting fire control on the train running through Tokmak. If Ukraine can prevent resupply via the trains then everything west of Tokmak falls practically without a shot.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm keeping my expectations low.

Being overly optimistic will only lead to dissapointment. It seems inevitable that this will continue to be a hard slog.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 2 points 10 months ago

Man this is no time to be reasonable! /s

[–] randon31415 12 points 10 months ago

If Ukrane can pump enough energy into Tokamak, then we can start converting the Russians into deuterium. If the front gets stable enough, we might get a net output of electricity. Hopefully this happens before winter, as cold fusion is harder to do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Every journalist and news editor that writes up one of these articles about X force making gains in Y region towards Z town without including at least one, if not multiple, maps showing what they're describing, needs to be brought before the Hague.

The tiny thumbnail they include doesn't even show Tokmak, let alone the events described in the article

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For those who want a proper analysis, I strongly recommend the Institute for the Study of War's analysees which they update regularly.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-24-2023

Today's summary includes 8 maps.

IRC they also have an interactive map somewhere on their site.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Ukrainian forces advanced closer to the Russian second line of defense in the Robotyne area in western Zaporizhia Oblast on August 24, further widening their breach of Russian defensive lines in the area. Geolocated footage published on August 24 shows that Ukrainian forces advanced further towards the Russian defensive lines west of Verbove (18km southeast of Orikhiv) and into southern Robotyne (10km south of Orikhiv).[30] Some Russian milbloggers indicated that Russian forces maintain limited if any, positions in southern Robotyne and that fighting continues east of Robotyne.[31] A prominent Russian milblogger expressed concern at the Ukrainian breach of Russian defensive lines in western Zaporizhia Oblast and stated that this is a critical moment on the battlefield.[32] The milblogger stated that Russian forces need to hold their positions for at least another month and a half to try to make gains in another area of the frontline and attempt to shift the battlefield situation in favor of Russian forces.[33] Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Valeri Zaluzhnyi responded to criticisms about the Ukrainian counteroffensive by stating that it was not a counterinsurgency but the Battle of Kursk, referencing a weeks-long World War II battle that ultimately allowed the Soviet army to regain the battlefield initiative and recapture significant swaths of territory.[34]

[–] InverseParallax 1 points 10 months ago

Isw has been the best for this conflict, though they have been a bit too favorable towards ukraine at times.

Still, very good coverage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Imagine not having the entirety of Ukraine memorized by this point