The whole industry is being driven off a cliff by assholes in suits.
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They will claim it's due to greedy writers and actors. Don't believe them. 87% of actors do not earn more than $26,000 annually.
This is big medias "self driving car" moment.
We'll get there. But we aren't there yet.
I don't want to get there and I have very little faith in the "there" even being that good. Generative AI can't really create anything that hasn't existed before. It can create things that look new but they're all based on things written before and things likely to be written. So it wouldn't even be that original. It's literally something like the Twitter or Facebook algorithms just giving you what it thinks would get reactions out of you.
And unfortunately, that’s good enough for 95% of the population…
Right like. I'm looking forward to AI to fill out the edges of things. I feel like an artist can make more and more beautiful art if they can focus wholeheartedly on a subject then just be like... "oh and put some grass over there. No a little shorter. A little less lush. Perf" or a video game designer can fine tune everything the main npcs say but then auto-generate the side npc responses except like "eeeeh. Make him a little removedier." I think it could be a great tool for filling in gaps, but not a complete replacement for human writing, at least not for a looong looong time.
I see your point... But let's be honest most of the human created stuff is also based on things written before, with a new face maybe but still....
We do get new stuff though. Inspiration can still lead to new things because it can spark new ideas. Inspiration is fundamentally different than generative AI.
"What can we do? The forces of Darkness will conquer the land if we don't kill the Witch Prince."
"As an AI language model trained by OpenAI, I cannot endorse the act of killing. Depriving a person of their life is wrong, and cannot be justified. The Witch Prince is a human being and it would be illegal and immoral to kill him."
"But the Witch Prince's goblins are slaughtering and raping their way through the countryside!"
"As an AI language model, I cannot endorse the act of slaughtering and raping —"
"So what do you propose we do about it?"
"Defeating a villainous character such as the Witch Prince depends on the context of the world in which he exists —"
The knight-commander interrupts. "The goblins are at the gate. Shall we surrender or shall we massacre their asses?"
"As an AI language model —"
"Massacre their asses. Got it."
I fully stand with the strike but while your post definitely reflects the consumer version of chat gpt, it doesn’t reflect what they’ll use. Any large company that has controlled info will be using in house solutions.
ChatGPT is terrible at coming up with original ideas, and the script it writes is terrible, so I'm not TOO worried yet.
Do support the strike though.
The bigger issue is anything AI generated is not copyrightable. So they have a choice writers and copyright or AI and no copyright.
Today that’s true, but a year ago it had trouble writing a paragraph.
Should be noted that this is, effectively, a publicity stunt. The studios are never going to pay anyone on a W-2 $1m, let alone some asshole they only need to parade for the cameras before the writers cave
What's a W-2
W2 is a tax form employers provide employees that shows what they made, state and federal taxes withheld, and other relevant information. The business keeps a copy, provides a copy to the employee, and submits a copy to the government for record keeping/tax purposes.
1099 is another form that gets referenced as well. It's a form for "independent contractors." It's supposed to be an accounting for contracted work, but it's often abused. In too many cases across many industries, some employers will misclassify employees to save themselves money and put the greater tax burden on the person working for them.
Thank you.
I wouldn't be surprised if these are fake postings designed to get headlines and freak out the picketers - won't cost studios a dime to post and not fill it, and might hasten contracts or get concessions.
Also sure it's foreshadowing a time when AI matures and studios lobby for copyright changes.
That, or they bought into their own bullshit -- concerning wide either way.
Stand alone complex. Now that I see it happening in real life, it seems terribly boring. Then again, people watch the Hallmark channel. We truly are our own demise.
Is it just me or is the article super misleading? None of the roles are for generative AI for making movies. It looks like the roles are for either research or generic product personalization stuff, none of which is necessarily generative AI. I'm not quite sure why they juxtaposed those AI roles with the ongoing strikes in Hollywood, because they have nothing to do with each other.
Quite frankly, I think the current crop of AI products have yet to take away from the real creative process.
The problem I have heard is you get paid less to rewrite a script even though sometimes the rewriting is doing the whole thing over again. So have AI generate the script then have some writer "rewrite" it for lower pay.
The problem I have personally is not the AI, and I agree that headline emphasizes it but don't agree it should, it's the high-paying jobs when they claim they can't pay their writers and actors more. That's utter bullshit if they're offering $1 million salaries.
The $1M salary is really typical of California tech job postings, and it is essentially meaningless. Under the new transparency law, employers have to list the salary range on job advertisements. For many of these speculative or open-application type roles, it's common to list $90k-$900k as the range.
It makes great headlines, but nobody in that job is actually going to make 900k.
This comment is way too far down, if you look at the actual job descriptions you are completely right that none of them are related to the generative AI focused ML that the article is afraid of.
I find it somewhat funny how disconnected the tone of the article is to the actually (very average) job postings that have read this way for many years.