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[–] [email protected] 293 points 1 year ago (23 children)

I wish them the best of luck. Not that they have any chance of success but the more damage they cause to the Russian army, the better

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Was there actually anything stopping them before, other than some traffic cops with a grenade launcher, and some excavator operators frantically digging up the motorway?

[–] Dntshoot 122 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No, but they chickened out and now Putin has had a month to set up defenses

[–] Hazdaz 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Military equipment in Russia protecting Putin is military equipment that can't be used to attack Ukraine, so this is still a win.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially if Wagner manages to destroy some or a lot of them.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FSB as an organization needs to die to the man before anything good can happen in Russia.

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[–] rustyfish 208 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For everyone just tuning in: This show is notorious for having bad season finales.

[–] InigoMontoyota 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Wodge 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate how they just kill important characters offscreen.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Take it with a grain of salt, people, none of the trustworthy sources confirmed any of that - just a couple of Ukrainian outlets (understandable as psyop) and, well, yahoo news and the like.

As a Russian living in Russia and, obviously, closely following all the shit show, it does not seem like Wagner is going to do anything.

Then again, I'm not sure about shit after 24 Feb 2022.

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] fluke 127 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honest at this point I wouldn't even blink if Prigozhin popped up in the future to tell us they faked their deaths.

To be clear, I believe that he's dead (and that it was probably an assassination by Putin), but so many other outrageous things have happened already little surprises me.

[–] WhipTheLlama 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's the first thing I thought when I heard about his death. He should have known that Putin would likely want him dead, so pretending to board a plane that gets shot down is a pretty good way to fake your death. Does he use his fake death to plot revenge or to escape, never to be heard from again?

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[–] 0Xero0 18 points 1 year ago

I'd hoped he piloted a Kamikaze plane into Putin's card fortress so both of them could go to hell to meet Hitler whom they admired so much

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frozengyro 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd believe it when I see it. It's not going to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Doubtful. They are mercenaries and won't be getting paid anymore. Mercenaries have no allegiance to anybody.

[–] dangblingus 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just because the leader was presumably killed, doesn't mean they stop getting paid. Do you get fired from your job if your boss dies?

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

March on Moscow 2, Electric Boogaloo.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be so ironic if the plane crash was entirely an accident and not planned in any way, but no one believes it because of Putins history. And if they kill him for something he wasn’t actually involved in because of his past crimes ruining his credibility it would be oh-so-sweet

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[–] Hazdaz 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here we go again.

It will end not differently than last time.

When they had their leader, they might have had a chance to taking down Putin. Maybe. Slim chance, but a chance. Now they are fucked.

Still would be nice to put a hurt on the Russian military.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Any military units they manage to destroy is good for the rest of the world.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My Russian friend pointed out to me that Prigozhin was actually on his way to see Putin when he got shot down.

[–] lemme_at_it 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they all went in one plane...

[–] nyoooom 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah that part makes no sense, how dumb do you have to be to put the two main leaders in the same fucking plane flying near the capital

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[–] urfavlaura 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean let the fascist kill the fascist ig

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[–] grue 44 points 1 year ago
[–] notatoad 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As long as they’re not killing Ukrainians, then I guess yeah, go do whatever…

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They should join up with the Ukrainians.

[–] samus12345 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, in this case the enemy of their enemy is just another enemy.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This is a greater overall danger than many of you seem to realize. Their leader was a face and figurehead, the real power of Wagner mercenaries lies with the lieutenants. Without him, they are likely to splinter and become more brutal. Some are likely to be hired by the anti-Putin oligarchs, while others may align with Putin. This may result in Russia having to pull out of Ukraine, but that's not the end of this. Even if Putin is slammed out of power, that just results in an internal power struggle with deadly consequences. Those will not stay inside their borders.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God I hope they go through with this.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because it went so well before

[–] MotoAsh 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It actually did. They only stopped because he made a deal with Putin. They covered hundreds of kilometers in hours.

That IS successful to that point. They were just so f*cking stupid, they thought Putin wouldn't kill them anyways for the betrayal... If he had even 1/6th of a functional brain, he should've realized the MOMENT he abandoned his orders in Ukraine, it was him or Putin.

[–] randomperson 19 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The less wagnerites operating on Ukrainian soil the better. The less wagnerites helping illegal migrants to cross Polish-Belarusian border the better. The less wagnerites the better.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago
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